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both are too spicy for me. mild salsa pushes my stomach to the edge :D.
 
Annnddddd here's where I start to think that Nys put the flowers on the nightstand..........
 
MMohler said:
Annnddddd here's where I start to think that Nys put the flowers on the nightstand..........
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Nah g, just some tummy problems ;)
 
MMohler said:
Annnddddd here's where I start to think that Nys put the flowers on the nightstand..........
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He actually has flowers on the nightstand.
 
aaand my wife just broke it to our girls that our 5 year old water turtle died; she found him limp in his tank. He had a good life, he will be missed. That is all.
 
Ughhhhh
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DesertMedic66 said:
That idea has been around now for several years. There are several departments where EMTs/Medics are entering the warm area of shooting scenes with a LEO escort.
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Rescue task forces. I did a training with that. If you trust the other components it's not a horrible idea, but I'm still not a fan

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I don't ever expect these tactical medics to ever be anymore than fire medics with tactical training. Take whatever you wish from that.

I'm ok with those that choose to do this, and then bring the patients to the ambulance I am in so I can render such "life-saving" techniques, and "heroic measures" as rapid, safe delivery of care to a properly staffed trauma center; completely thrilling heroism.
 
Cops: "there is a victim of an active shooter in that building"

Me to the cops: "well, I'll be over here, waiting to what I'm trained for and wheat I've practiced to do, while you go do what you've trained and practiced to do."

Cops bring patient out to EMS.

Me: "thanks for doing what you do. Now I'll do what I do. That's how this professional thing works"
 
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My last department was doing something like this. Basically first incoming LEOs to an active shooter event would go straight in, straight towards the sound of gunfire to find and eliminate the threat (if they could take them into custody cool, but that was only expected if the perp straight up surrendered as soon as the LEO rolled up). As more cops show up, they form 2, 4, or even 6 man teams (4 preferred, but all dependent on specifics of size of location/number of shooters/etc) And do the same as above, find and stop the threat, doing nothing more for casualties they encounter than radioing in location and maybe tossing them a tourniquet and keep moving to the bad guys. As more cops show up they'd go into their cordon and search....

First incoming fire and medics would stage in the cold zone, but as the IC decided where the warm vs hot zones are, they'd start forming Rescue Task Forces (preferably 4 medics or EMTs (all FFs) and 4 cops whose job would be to move to the reported casualties (later as the situation stabilized forming coordinated searches) And then simply pulling the casualties out, maybe applying TQs or other CLS level immediate life saving interventions, basically just evac the casualties to the triage areas in the cold zone (where us single role EMTs on the actual ambulances would be) for treatment and transport.
 
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