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Linuss said:
Or the dozens upon dozens put on this website each month:
http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/



Honestly, it's shocking at the sheer amount of false allegations, and that people (looking at you, news agencies) who freak out when people say take a second look at those accusations and do due diligence and prove BEYOND a reasonable doubt.
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So this is a website run by people accused of rape that was created to show that rape is just a bunch of hooey? Sounds pretty solid to me. Dozens and dozens of false accusations every month you say?

There are an estimated 50000+ forcible rapes in the US.



Every month!

That means when you started reading this post someone had just finished being raped and now while you're reading it another will have been raped. While your sitting there thinking about what you just read, yup that's right another rape will have happened.



Rape is the most unreported crime in the US. It is also one of the least prosecuted. It is reported less than 20 percent of the time.


Do you know where the whole idea behind "women can't get pregnant from forcible rape" came from? It's an argument used to get cases thrown out from decades ago. The idea was that if a man raped a woman and she got pregnant then she must have liked it so it wasn't rape. Obviously if she hadn't liked it then her mysterious lady parts would have shut down to prevent impregnation. There are still judges and prosecutors and at least one highly placed politician that believes this is true.

More recently the "rape victims can't get pregnant so obviously she wasn't raped" theory was revived to support removal of pregnancy by rape from anti abortion laws.

1 in 4 women will at some point in their life be raped. Hold up your hand and start listing the women you know. Start with your family. Scary huh?

Only 4 women in your family? Dodged a bullet there. Oh wait 1 in 6 men will be be raped at some point in their life, better keep counting.
 
I thought it was 1 in 4 sexually assaulted, not necessarily raped?
 
Aidey said:
I thought it was 1 in 4 sexually assaulted, not necessarily raped?
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The FBI statistics were recently changed to include sodomy, oral sex, same sex assault, sexual assault while drugged ect. in the definition of rape, all of which were previously excluded. But yes if you're talking strictly traditional old school definition of rape the number is more like 1 in 25 I believe.

The 50k number is only forcible rape.
 
Jon said:
What are you driving?


And I've been toying with a diesel VW... I'm looking at a job where I'd be commuting 50 miles 1-way. My 1997 Explorer is going to get very expensive very quickly.
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2004 cavalier
 
bigbaldguy said:
Rape is the most unreported crime in the US. It is also one of the least prosecuted. It is reported less than 20 percent of the time.
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It's also one of the few crimes where the defendant is guilty the second an accusation is made.

It's also one of the few crimes where only the defendant is named.

It's also one of the few crimes where only one sex is considered to be able to be a victim. After all, look at the difference between when a male teacher rapes a student and when a female teacher rapes a student.
 
bigbaldguy said:
The FBI statistics were recently changed to include sodomy, oral sex, same sex assault, sexual assault while drugged ect. in the definition of rape, all of which were previously excluded. But yes if you're talking strictly traditional old school definition of rape the number is more like 1 in 25 I believe.

The 50k number is only forcible rape.
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Interesting. I understand classifying any forcible penetration as rape, but I'm not sure if expanding it beyond that will do anything but confuse people.
 
JPINFV said:
It's also one of the few crimes where the defendant is guilty the second an accusation is made.

It's also one of the few crimes where only the defendant is named.

It's also one of the few crimes where only one sex is considered to be able to be a victim. After all, look at the difference between when a male teacher rapes a student and when a female teacher rapes a student.
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I got into a big debate with a former (male) partner who maintained that a woman could not rape a man. It was an utterly bizarre discussion.
 
bigbaldguy said:
Seriously no one actually read the basis of my argument did they.

This must be what it's like to be the president.
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Hey I did! lol

People think that I'm crazy when I tell them I'm against the death penalty based solely on the reason of cost...

And since I posted it earlier I would like to say that, "Why, yes I do know what it's like to have someone argue against me based on something other than my original premesis." LOL:rofl:
 
Aidey said:
I got into a big debate with a former (male) partner who maintained that a woman could not rape a man. It was an utterly bizarre discussion.
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If the mind was unwilling, but the flesh was weak, then I don't see why it wouldn't be possible.
 
And also...since the whole gun/off topic thing, where the argument for not allowing it was based on politics...

Is this becoming too based on politics, or would this be more policy focuses?

Should we merge back into more on-topic off-topic stuff? :P
 
It's snowing here in Colorado Springs, got the ski box strapped onto the roof (brr) and now off to Steamboat for a few days vacation of chilling and hoping it snows enough to slap the skins on and get a run in before the mountain officially opens.
 
JPINFV said:
If the mind was unwilling, but the flesh was weak, then I don't see why it wouldn't be possible.
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That was pretty much my argument. Especially if a degree of drugs or alcohol are involved.
 
Aidey said:
That was pretty much my argument. Especially if a degree of drugs or alcohol are involved.
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Oh, another rape inequality. If both the man and women were drunk and had intercourse, then shouldn't both be unable to consent, and therefore guilty of rape?
 
JPINFV said:
Oh, another rape inequality. If both the man and women were drunk and had intercourse, then shouldn't both be unable to consent, and therefore guilty of rape?
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That's why you always make sure someone is A&Ox4 before you get in bed :P
 
Aidey said:
I got into a big debate with a former (male) partner who maintained that a woman could not rape a man. It was an utterly bizarre discussion.
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It's likely where the same belief that trivializes older women that abuse younger boys. Looking at the rash of female teachers having sex with male students. separate the professional issue of engaging in sexual activity with a student, or the moral issue of such a thing.

Many men I know don't believe it's a (real) crime, or that it's even okay. It is certainly socially more acceptable for, say, a 16 year old male to have sex with with an 30 year old woman. Heck, when I was a walking hormone monster (as most 16 year olds are), I would have put it past me to be willing to burn down an orphanage if it would have made such a thing happen.

I know, on a visceral level I react differently to such an occurrence than if it were reversed on the young person was female. Part of that is society, and what is deemed acceptable despite laws. There is no idolized MR. Robinson afterall (the thought makes me feel dirty).

So afterall that, your former partner's belief is likely part of a deeper cultural to accept one and shun the other, thus men are not the best people to weigh in on the concept of male rape, as it'l likely a majority of them would simply refer to it as that, "crazy freaky night," and blame the jager.
 
JPINFV said:
Oh, another rape inequality. If both the man and women were drunk and had intercourse, then shouldn't both be unable to consent, and therefore guilty of rape?
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This also brings to question as to whether or not the anatomy in question would be able to "consent" at that level of intoxication.
 
JPINFV said:
Oh, another rape inequality. If both the man and women were drunk and had intercourse, then shouldn't both be unable to consent, and therefore guilty of rape?
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Logic dictates that unless someone uses violence it shouldn't be rape, so I'm with you on this one. It doesn't make much sense to me.

Jambi said:
So afterall that, your former partner's belief is likely part of a deeper cultural to accept one and shun the other, thus men are not the best people to weigh in on the concept of male rape, as it'l likely a majority of them would simply refer to it as that, "crazy freaky night," and blame the jager.
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No, he was just crazy.
 
JPINFV said:
Oh, another rape inequality. If both the man and women were drunk and had intercourse, then shouldn't both be unable to consent, and therefore guilty of rape?
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I believe that we're talking a bit more of a roofie type situation here not two drunk kids in the back of a Lincoln with a six pack type thing.

The new provision will define rape as any kind of penetration of another person, regardless of gender, without the victim's consent. It also includes a broad range of rapes involving both males and females in which attackers use objects to penetrate their victims.
 
Aidey said:
Logic dictates that unless someone uses violence it shouldn't be rape, so I'm with you on this one. It doesn't make much sense to me.
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So a woman or man is Roofied. They are then sexually assaulted. You don't believe this to be rape?
 
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