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J&J's crap efficacy is the issue more than rare adverse events.
COVID VACCINE - The Megathread
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I missed this update at first, but the healthcare vaccine mandate is no longer on a court ordered stay in about half the states.
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Health worker vaccine mandate blocked in half the states
A federal appeals court panel has lifted a nationwide ban against President Joe Biden's vaccine mandate for health workers, creating the potential for patchwork enforcement across the country.
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Court allows Biden employer vaccine mandate to take effect
A federal appeals court panel has ruled that President Joe Biden’s vaccine mandate for larger private employers can take effect.
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And the employer vaccine mandate is back, but no info on when it will go into effect now.
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Got my Moderna booster today. I’ve been kinda stalling on it but decided to go ahead and do it.
I’m only 5 hours out and the aches are starting.. it’s going to be a long night..
I’m only 5 hours out and the aches are starting.. it’s going to be a long night..
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Did you take an NSAID beforehand? I popped 1 Aleve just before going for the booster and had zero symptoms.
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Enjoy your cytokine storm. Mine lasted two days.
FiremanMike
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I took some tylenol the moment I started getting aches and actually feel ok-ish.. my arm hurts and I feel kinda blah but overall not anywhere near as bad as shot #2
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Israel approves 4th vaccine dose for most vulnerable
Israel has approved a fourth vaccine dose for people most vulnerable to COVID-19, becoming one of the first countries to do so as it braces for a wave of infections fueled by the omicron variant.
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Isreal has now started recommending a 4th vaccine dose. If this keeps up, we're going to need quartley vaccinations.
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Only for highest risk persons/immunocompromised... Israel doesn't like to accept casualties.Israel approves 4th vaccine dose for most vulnerable
Israel has approved a fourth vaccine dose for people most vulnerable to COVID-19, becoming one of the first countries to do so as it braces for a wave of infections fueled by the omicron variant.
Isreal has now started recommending a 4th vaccine dose. If this keeps up, we're going to need quartley vaccinations.
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That just means they're the first. It won't be long before everyone is recommend to get another booster.
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You'd almost think there was a global pandemic going on.
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You'd almost think there has never been a global pandemic before.
So far everything we've been told to do to combat this pandemic has been way less efficient then we were led to believe. Two weeks to flatten the curve, social distancing, masks, vaccines and now boosters. All have helped to some degree, but none have lived up to their hype.
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And they'll tell us that it isn't a problem with the interventions or just the nature of a highly potent virus in the age of globalization, but its all the fault of the drooling, uneducated masses for being too stubborn and uncooperative to do exactly what they are told by "the officials" despite the fact that those officials have proven themselves time and again to be incompetent and dishonest.
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Thanks AGAIN, China.
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I think all of those things listed would have been much more effective if the entire population did them. Look at the countries that really clamped down on everything such as New Zealand and how they were to completely eliminate all COVID cases in their country for a long time and are really only getting hit now with it.
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Apples and oranges..
It is much easier to isolate an island nation with different laws and rights.
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Sure it’s a different population but all of the actions they took were the same actions that we put in place. Everything was less effective because we were less effective at following it. Nations who strictly followed it were much more effective.
They followed strong stay at home protocols, social distancing, mask wearing, staying home if you are sick, and also have around 80% of their entire population fully vaccinated. Those were all the same policies that the US attempted to use.
I think DesertMedic66 is addressing compliance with public health measures. I don't think he's saying the U.S. is like New Zealand.
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They also set up police checkpoints to enforce the quarantine. Sure, some of the fundamental steps they took were similar, but public compliance is a lot different when it is being enforced at the end of a badge.
The issue, I believe, isn't New Zealand; it's compliance with public health initiatives in the U.S. I don't have the tools to measure it. All I have is pre-2020 memories of employer-mandated vaccinations treated as routine by me and my coworkers. We didn't over-think the premise that it's bad for healthcare workers to infect their patients. There was no option not to get vaccinated and remain employed. Were we wrong then? Should we have had rights to opt out of public health initiatives and remain members of our communities? What about now?