COVID VACCINE - The Megathread

Would you get the Pfizer vaccine if it were available to you?

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VAERS. Yelp for vaccines?
 
CarSevenFour said:
And you support your own biases by refusing to do your own work. I gave you easy sources that you can springboard to however deep you want to go. Sorry, I refuse to hold your hand. Do your own research, I'm not here to do anything other than offer my own findings that are linked to deeper scientific papers. I'd suggest you start with the VAERS stats https://vaers.hhs.gov/ updated regularly and know that these only scratch the surface because there's often underreporting, but the numbers are generally accepted by the scientific community.
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You make the claim, it is your responsibility to back it up. It's not up to us to Google-Fu your research supporting your position.
 
CarSevenFour said:
Even The Vatican has weighed in on the issue. When the Pope talks about fetal cells used in Covid-19 manufacturing, Catholics take note.
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Sorry folks...I could not allow this little gem to fly by....I mean the poster is the one who brought this "fact" to the table to support his position. He invoked the Pope and Catholics....so let's take a stroll and see what the Vatican has to say shall we...

This is only one story of but many, all reporting the same, cheers!

www.ncronline.org

Pope Francis suggests people have moral obligation to take coronavirus vaccine

Pope Francis suggested that people have a moral obligation to receive one of the new coronavirus vaccines as soon as possible, revealing in a new interview that he expects to get his own first dose this week.
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"Pope Francis suggested that people have a moral obligation to receive one of the new coronavirus vaccines as soon as possible, revealing in a new interview that he expects to get his own first dose this week."

"I believe that morally everyone must take the vaccine," the pontiff said in a Jan. 10 interview for Italy's TG5 news program. "It is the moral choice because it is about your life but also the lives of others."

Francis' remarks are the latest in a series of firm signals to the world's 1.3 billion Catholics that he and the Vatican strongly support the global vaccination effort.

And the Vatican's own health service is about to begin offering the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine to the city-state's residents, staff members, and their families.
 
jgmedic said:
It's because there are no true sources that back up that position. By true, I mean scientifically based, peer-reviewed that do not come from obviously biased sources.
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If I followed the science, I'd be bound up in indecision. Fauci: masks only work for medical professionals, no need to mask up, wear a mask, wear two masks, wear three masks, vaccinate children who seem to have a natural immunity to Covid, get vaccinated-but still wear a mask. Maybe I should buy stock in mask maker 3-M and pick up a few shares of Pfizer and Moderna for good luck as well....
 
ffemt8978 said:
You make the claim, it is your responsibility to back it up. It's not up to us to Google-Fu your research supporting your position.
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I'm not a scientist and have no responsibility other than to myself. You decide on your own. As the OP asked, my answer is "no" to the vax.
 
Back to the OP. Wow, 58 votes total and you guys got your shorts all in a wad. I don't think the vast majority of EMTs care one way or the other or the tiny sampling represents much ado about nothing. Or maybe the vast majority of EMTs are on some other website.
 
CarSevenFour said:
I'm not a scientist and have no responsibility other than to myself. You decide on your own. As the OP asked, my answer is "no" to the vax.
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If you're going to make some of the claims you've made in this thread, then you need to back them up. If you're stating an opinion like "I'm not getting vaccinated because I don't want to/trust it/against my religion" then that's another matter entirely. Neither you or anybody else gets to make factually incorrect claims then get out of proving them by stating do your own research.
 
Before we go down a dark rabbit hole, let's leave politics and religion out of this thread. Those topics generally don't end well.
 
What part of keep religion and politics out of this thread was I unclear about?

If I have to remove any more of those types of posts, it will be accompanied by a ban.
 
We have someone who comes in here and posts blatant misinformation, but since it's tied in with religion or politics, we cant talk about it? Hate to break it to you, but unfortunately, the vaccine has become a political issue, as much as it shouldnt be.
 
jgmedic said:
We have someone who comes in here and posts blatant misinformation, but since it's tied in with religion or politics, we cant talk about it? Hate to break it to you, but unfortunately, the vaccine has become a political issue, as much as it shouldnt be.
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Correcting blatant misinformation is allowed.

Challenging somebody's political or religious beliefs never ends well, and almost always results in members getting banned because someone always forgets to be polite about it. If you can't challenge blatant misinformation with facts, science, logic and reason then do you think you will be able to convince anyone by attacking their politics or religion?
 
CCCSD said:
Flying Spaghetti Monster out?
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don't you go picking on my religion!!

I proudly support my fellow colander wearers

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Israeli Pastafarian fights for his right to wear a colander on his head

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and I will defend all religions as equally valid.

but it has nothing to do with the COVID vaccine, so we should all stop trying to inject any religion or politics into a matter of science.
 
I got the J&J today. Uptick in younger patients admitted to ICUs in my area. Figured there is enough data available and the possible benefit > risk.

New variants are flying in from all over the globe.

I had hesitated for a litany of reasons, but if I throw a clot or develop GBS y’all know I’m gonna be mighty upset. I have been up to neck in COVID patients since this kicked off, at times with sub par PPE, and I have avoided (I believe) infection so far. I did check for antibodies/infection prior to being vaccinated.
 
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GBS?
 
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