Ambulnz Health, LLC (Los Angeles County)

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fatkid said:
Heard this from an Aegis EMT crew two weeks ago. Not saying its true, just reporting what they told me.
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For sake of argument, let assume this true. Let examine the issue with this.

Company must be able to pass this test or they will be in big trouble if irs catches them https://www.irs.gov/businesses/smal...ependent-contractor-self-employed-or-employee

Considering that you will be schedule days to work, you're told who to transport, where to transport etc it basically means that it's not independent contractor. Instead you're an employee. If this company is really going to true this, they will get a nice visit one day from irs and then get very big and nice fine. That is reason why I don't see them doing it. This company is basically making a lot of smoke with no fire.
 
I think everyone is getting stuck in numbers. The original article said up to 72k. With that said it means the opportunity is there BUT if nobody makes it then it means they can always fall back on the 'up to'.

I part-time in a sales dept and this is unique wording. AT&T tells new customers to switch carriers and they can receive up to $650 in credits. Just look at advertising from home internet, they all say you can get up to 30MBPS, 100MBPS, 1GBPS. This does not mean all day everyday you're getting these speeds but the system can give you that much.



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As an employee for Ambulnz I can attest to a considerable amount of changes being made in rapid succession to all three companies. I'm not exactly sure how the 72k annual income is achievable as corporate has not stated to us any policy or procedure on the matter. So that does remain to be seen.

As for the renting of the ambulances I have heard of that but I it so take it with a grain of salt considering there has been no official word from HQ.

I'm not a supervisor and I was never told to come on here and say anything positive. In fact I was extremely skeptical when the companies merged but I have to say these guys are very ambitious.

Do I think I'll make 72k a year? Maybe not but in this climate a company that is expanding with the veracity and financially investing itself into the future of the business gives you a little faith that they're not going to pull the rug out from underneath you. Ask former west coast ambulance EMTs. Call it false hope if you will but that's just my two cents.
 
toyskater86 said:
has anyone heard of a new company coming into LA County buying up a bunch of small companies? the company is called "Ambulnz" and all I have read is that they bought Impulse, but i have heard from others that they also bought Aegis ambulance and Ameripride ambulance. They also advertise that their EMTs can make up to 72k a year.
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Interviewed with them today. Aegis ops supervisor conducted interview. They did buy ameripride and impulse. Potentially you can make great money. After 6 calls in the shift there is an incentive/bonus program ($27 a call) Depends on amount of calls run but seems to be a great opportunity to make good money. Everyone is just blowing hot air, they are legit.
 
Nunley said:
Interviewed with them today. Aegis ops supervisor conducted interview. They did buy ameripride and impulse. Potentially you can make great money. After 6 calls in the shift there is an incentive/bonus program ($27 a call) Depends on amount of calls run but seems to be a great opportunity to make good money. Everyone is just blowing hot air, they are legit.
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I am Leary anytime some says its "legit". We will all see soon enough. Either I will be eating some crow or back here talking smack about how right we all were.
 
Nunley said:
Interviewed with them today. Aegis ops supervisor conducted interview. They did buy ameripride and impulse. Potentially you can make great money. After 6 calls in the shift there is an incentive/bonus program ($27 a call) Depends on amount of calls run but seems to be a great opportunity to make good money. Everyone is just blowing hot air, they are legit.
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Do you really expect people to believe that a random person interviewed with this company and was impressed so much that he/she decided to register on this board and post how great the company is?
 
Nunley said:
After 6 calls in the shift there is an incentive/bonus program ($27 a call)
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Just for the argument's sake, let's do some simple math, based on known facts.

Fact #1: Ambulnz does not have a 911 contract with the county.
Fact #2: Ambulnz can't charge more than anyone else for a call
Fact #3: Ambulnz doesn't have their primary contract with any of the big hospitals

And here's the simple math. An average duration for a non-emergency call is anywhere between 1.5 to 4 hours, depending on the punctuality of the discharging facility or the wall time in the receiving facility, distance/traffic and any complications. If the company is willing to give out an 'incentive' after the 6th call on the shift, just how many back to back calls can a crew run on a 8/10/12 hours shift ? Also, that $27/hr figure falls comfortably into a x2-time hourly pay - and rest assured people WILL be pulling x2-time trying to knock off more than 6 calls, on a 10 or 12 hr shifts. Not to mention the sudden drop in service quality, since they will try and get rid of the patients ASAP.

Then there is the cost per call; the company must charge same or less than the rest of the privates in LACo, which means the entire 'we cash out big' spiel is nothing but hot air.

And last, but not the least - if the company doesn't have their primary with places like UCLA, Kaiser, Keck, Kindred, Cedar etc, it means that they work with ****holes such as SCHN or LAComm.
 
Qulevrius said:
Just for the argument's sake, let's do some simple math, based on known facts.

Fact #1: Ambulnz does not have a 911 contract with the county.
Fact #2: Ambulnz can't charge more than anyone else for a call
Fact #3: Ambulnz doesn't have their primary contract with any of the big hospitals

And here's the simple math. An average duration for a non-emergency call is anywhere between 1.5 to 4 hours, depending on the punctuality of the discharging facility or the wall time in the receiving facility, distance/traffic and any complications. If the company is willing to give out an 'incentive' after the 6th call on the shift, just how many back to back calls can a crew run on a 8/10/12 hours shift ? Also, that $27/hr figure falls comfortably into a x2-time hourly pay - and rest assured people WILL be pulling x2-time trying to knock off more than 6 calls, on a 10 or 12 hr shifts. Not to mention the sudden drop in service quality, since they will try and get rid of the patients ASAP.

Then there is the cost per call; the company must charge same or less than the rest of the privates in LACo, which means the entire 'we cash out big' spiel is nothing but hot air.

And last, but not the least - if the company doesn't have their primary with places like UCLA, Kaiser, Keck, Kindred, Cedar etc, it means that they work with ****holes such as SCHN or LAComm.
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Common misconception is call bonus = lesser than satisfactory service. You can't rush a call no matter how hard you try the receiving facility works at their own pace. Plus LA and OC traffic is undaunting so that defeats the myth plus excuse.

P.S. I have never worked for Ambulnz *snickers* nor have I dreamt of it

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They can't, but they'll try. Plus, they will be less than patient about it - and that WILL affect the pt care.
 
Qulevrius said:
They can't, but they'll try. Plus, they will be less than patient about it - and that WILL affect the pt care.
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Like LA County isn't already riddled with workers that don't care. McCormick does call bonuses and I don't recall the quality of care diminishing either. For a call bonus to diminish care it means the care was low quality to begin with

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medic19 said:
So I work for Ambulnz. None of this is true. All EMT's will continue to be paid as employees receiving a W-2 and benefts. What is true, is that Ambulnz is hard at work trying to create an environment where those who hustle and work hard will have the opportunity to earn serious money. And those are the facts
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said in true management fashion. I'm placing bets on a secondary company fake account to say this. "hustle and work hard" said no bls dialysis emt ever.


Can confirm, McCormick is a solid company to work for and they strive to have their emt's do the best that they can.
 
Las Vegas fire did call bonuses for a long time. I believe it was $50 per billable transport. That was before they restructured their response model with AMR.


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I really don't think there's any base for comparison between 911 companies or FD, and some random BLS establishment.
 
Aegis and AmeriPride and SoCalAmbulance have terrible management. Most of the EMT's are nice and knowledgeable, but the dispatchers lie to the patients like it's an everyday thing(we'll be there in 10 minutes, we are right outside, etc.) and are routinely late to pickup patients from dialysis appointments. SoCalAmbulance actually stopped taking my picking up/dropping off one of my family members for dialysis because they couldnt make it on time. Of course management didn't care and I doubt the manager even goes on shift with his EMT's so he can know what its like. The EMT's are usually telling us they have 80+ calls for an 8hr shift with only 13 or so ambulances. Aegis and AmeriPride also don't pick up on time, but they are getting better. Unfortunately most of AmeriPride's ambulances don't have air conditioning, so imagine having a family member on dialysis in an ambulance for 30+minutes with no AC in Los Angeles... I know they aren't a taxi so they should be there in 5 minutes when they say they are but seriously lying to your patients and stranding them at the dialysis center after it closes multiple times isn't right.
 
THOUGHT ABOUT APPLYING FOR AMBULNZ. NOT SURE. HEARD MIXED THINGS. THERES ONLY 2 "GOOD" DISPATCHERS THERE AND THEY BOTH WORK AT NIGHT. SO MAYBE I'D TRY TO REQUEST NIGHT SHIFTS? IDK?, I LIKE THE COLOR OF THE RIGS AND THE 72K DOES SOUND GOOD. SO MAYBE? ANYONE ELSE HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THIS NEW COMPANY. JUST SEEN AN AD ONLINE. ???
 
ImVenom said:
THOUGHT ABOUT APPLYING FOR AMBULNZ. NOT SURE. HEARD MIXED THINGS. THERES ONLY 2 "GOOD" DISPATCHERS THERE AND THEY BOTH WORK AT NIGHT. SO MAYBE I'D TRY TO REQUEST NIGHT SHIFTS? IDK?, I LIKE THE COLOR OF THE RIGS AND THE 72K DOES SOUND GOOD. SO MAYBE? ANYONE ELSE HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THIS NEW COMPANY. JUST SEEN AN AD ONLINE. ???
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No need to spam the board in caps and bold.
 
ImVenom said:
So it's spam cause I wrote in bold with a honest question? OK.
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Yes. It's literally the internet equivalent of you yelling in our faces. It is actually harder to read than normal non-bolded type with normal English capitalization rules, and visually distracts the reader from the actual content of your questions/comments.
 
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