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I would kill to work in Scotland or New Zealand... But American certs are not valid for reciprocity
 
The only place I'd consider outside of the US is Nova Scotia. The wife isn't interested though.
 
TransportJockey said:
I would kill to work in ... New Zealand... But American certs are not valid for reciprocity
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I don't know who told you that but it's not true. As of Friday of this week,

Staff wanting to gain ATP at Paramedic level

There are now only two ways to gain the pre-requisite knowledge before applying for ATP at Paramedic level

1. Complete and pass a Bachelor of Health Science in Paramedicine (or equivalent) from one of the Council of Ambulance Authorities (CAA) accredited tertiary institutions. In New Zealand these are Auckland University of Technology and Whitireia Community Polytechnic.

2. Demonstrate current competency at Paramedic level. This is reserved for people with prior clinical qualifications and/or experience that are very clearly equivalent to that of a Paramedic, for example in a medical, nursing or ambulance (usually from another ambulance service) setting. This pathway is only available for the small number of people who can very clearly demonstrate that their current clinical practice is equivalent to that of a Paramedic and all others will be required to complete a degree as outlined in bullet 1.

You would be bullet 2. Assuming you could clearly demonstrate your current practice is equivalent to Paramedic you will be given an ATP. If you can not then you may be given ATP at Emergency Medical Technician. If this was the case you would not be allowed to gain ATP at Paramedic without completing the BHSc degree. It is no longer allowed to gain an ATP at Intensive Care Paramedic through the "equivalent" method. To become an ICP you would first need to complete the BHSc Paramedic degree (whatever portion you had to do - I would imagine half (18 months) or a third (one year)) then the Post Graduate Certificate (another year). It is of note that a formal workforce skill matrix by station is being developed. ICPs will only be allowed at certain stations. I take it this will mean metropolitan, large urban and selected provincial stations only. ATP of ICP will not be granted to anybody already at a non ICP station nor can you move there.

Now, this is all great in theory, does it mean you are going to get sponsored for a work visa and such? I don't know, I do know that Immigration New Zealand no longer considers Paramedics to be a skill in demand so probably not given that our rate of graduates has increased and most of our vacancies are for Emergency Medical Technicians (about 80 of the 150 vacancies are for EMTs, the rest are for Paramedics and ICPs split half:half and about 50 graduates each year who will be Paramedics in approximately six months after completing graduation and the intern period).

Hmm ... when registration finally comes (next year) this will change. It will likely be that unless you can demonstrate educational equivalence to our standard (i.e. ATP at Paramedic requiring the BHSc degree and at ICP requiring the PGCert) that you will not be registered. This is how the Nursing Council now works. If you cannot demonstrate equivalence to a 3 year New Zealand BN degree then you will not be registered. One of my friends has an international degree and they will not register her because her degree is not considered equivalent even though her current practice is equivalent.
 
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See, I think ICP in New Zealand would be amazing. They mostly operate in fly cars right? As far as I can tell New Zealand pretty much has my ideal version of an EMS system in place...
 
irishboxer384 said:
why scotland?
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Just really like the area from everything I've read and seen. Im planning on trying to go tbere to visit late next year. At one pount I looked at ireland because supposedly American certs could semi be used for reciprocity, but I got too busy here at home to look much into that
 
TransportJockey said:
Just really like the area from everything I've read and seen. Im planning on trying to go tbere to visit late next year. At one pount I looked at ireland because supposedly American certs could semi be used for reciprocity, but I got too busy here at home to look much into that
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I've spent alot of time in Scotland. It has some of the most beautiful places in the world....but that isn't where the paramedics work lol. Imagine a mixture of the scenery or Montana, but the towns make compton look like a retirement village lol
 
If you do go PM me I know it like the back of my hand (like a second home), i can recommend some good places and places to avoid mate
 
chaz90 said:
See, I think ICP in New Zealand would be amazing. They mostly operate in fly cars right? As far as I can tell New Zealand pretty much has my ideal version of an EMS system in place...
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No. Most ICPs are rostered on a transporting road ambulance. There are a few in a response car but it's only really in Auckland or Christchurch and a few other large urban cities. Auckland is reintroducing two ICPs in cars to work during the day only at this stage. The Shift Supervisors are all ICPs who can provide backup but that's only if there is no other ICPs available and they only work in Auckland and Christchurch. Sierra (for non urgent work) may or may not be an ICP.

The response car model is not without it's difficulties and to some degree yes, a few people in a car makes sense however it needs to be carefully managed otherwise the negatives outweigh any benefit.
 
Clare said:
No. Most ICPs are rostered on a transporting road ambulance. There are a few in a response car but it's only really in Auckland or Christchurch and a few other large urban cities. Auckland is reintroducing two ICPs in cars to work during the day only at this stage. The Shift Supervisors are all ICPs who can provide backup but that's only if there is no other ICPs available and they only work in Auckland and Christchurch. Sierra (for non urgent work) may or may not be an ICP.

The response car model is not without it's difficulties and to some degree yes, a few people in a car makes sense however it needs to be carefully managed otherwise the negatives outweigh any benefit.
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Huh. Good to know. Thanks Clare!
 
TransportJockey said:
Just really like the area from everything I've read and seen. Im planning on trying to go tbere to visit late next year.
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I lived there for over 30 years, and still fly home twice a year when I fancy a decent pint.

The Scottish Ambulance Service is one of the larger but probably not one of the more progressive NHS trusts. Ambulance work over there for non-EU citizens is more or less impossible.

Still recommend you visit the place though.
 
You ever looked into, or considered flight programs? If you have an education, or want to pursue additional education, the career ladder has alot of potential at some programs. Education, training, protocols hands down go to some of the top tier flight programs in the country. As far as retirement, there are a few services where you will tack onto government pension and beni's, but I wouldn't let not having that be a factor. Government pensions are quickly going to become a thing of the past with the financial situation our states and country is in, and you stand to make more money investing smartly in a 401 w/an aggressive company match and Roth anyway. I left a job with a pension for one that doesn't have one.

However if you are looking for just EMS then I would agree with all the previous posts, and your current employer.
 
Clare said:
No. Most ICPs are rostered on a transporting road ambulance. There are a few in a response car but it's only really in Auckland or Christchurch and a few other large urban cities. Auckland is reintroducing two ICPs in cars to work during the day only at this stage. The Shift Supervisors are all ICPs who can provide backup but that's only if there is no other ICPs available and they only work in Auckland and Christchurch. Sierra (for non urgent work) may or may not be an ICP.

The response car model is not without it's difficulties and to some degree yes, a few people in a car makes sense however it needs to be carefully managed otherwise the negatives outweigh any benefit.
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I'd still happily come work for St. John or WFA (not sure if there is much difference practice wise?) I did one shift when I lived in Auckland and it was lovely.
 
Tigger said:
I'd still happily come work for St. John or WFA (not sure if there is much difference practice wise?) I did one shift when I lived in Auckland and it was lovely.
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Not much difference really no, same response system (purple, red, orange, green and grey), same Clinical Procedures and Guidelines etc. I know they are a bit more advanced than St J when it comes to the whole Sierra/less urgent response work.

With the changes to the practice structure it's now going to be very difficult for internationals to get a job because they simply no longer fill a need that cannot be met locally. Shame, the few foreigners I have worked with have been really cool and have some neat stories about how things from their home land are. The South Africans are particularly interesting to talk to.
 
My ignorance, what is SSM?
Charlotte - Mecklenburg (MEDIC) may apply.
 
aust10n said:
My ignorance, what is SSM?
Charlotte - Mecklenburg (MEDIC) may apply.
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SSM stands for system status management. It includes posting, having staffing related to peak time call volumes, and working shifts that aren't necessarily evenly distributed (ie. as opposed to wiring 12s starting at 8 pm/am, shift times would be at 6, 8, 10, 12, 4, 6, and 8). Basically, SSM is system revolved around anticipating and most efficiently preparing for anticipated call volume/locations.
 
MonkeyArrow said:
SSM stands for system status management. It includes posting, having staffing related to peak time call volumes, and working shifts that aren't necessarily evenly distributed (ie. as opposed to wiring 12s starting at 8 pm/am, shift times would be at 6, 8, 10, 12, 4, 6, and 8). Basically, SSM is system revolved around anticipating and most efficiently preparing for anticipated call volume/locations.
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Ah, thanks, Monkey.
 
MonkeyArrow said:
SSM stands for system status management. It includes posting, having staffing related to peak time call volumes, and working shifts that aren't necessarily evenly distributed (ie. as opposed to wiring 12s starting at 8 pm/am, shift times would be at 6, 8, 10, 12, 4, 6, and 8). Basically, SSM is system revolved around anticipating and most efficiently preparing for anticipated call volume/locations.
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Also known as a "scientific wild *** guess".

Also see: paramedic burn out.
 
Spent some time researching Ada County today, looks like a pretty awesome place.

But how is the skiing nearby...
 
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