DesertMedic66
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Intubation really should not be the immediate next step. Bag the patient to get them back to normal oxygen levels then give some narcan. If the narcan works then you just saved yourself from doing a 100% unnecessary procedure on that patient.One would assume from the scenario given that there will be an imminent respiratory arrest. RR of 3? One would also assume that the PT is already getting BVM, so intubation would be the next step. We have intubated pts in the ED with bradypnea and given Narcan which sometimes worked, sometimes didn't. And yes, when it did work, they were extubated.
EMS providers daily are bagging patients and giving narcan which completely reverses the apnea and a lot of these patients sign out AMA all without a tube ever being touched.
I would hope there is a QA/QI process that would catch providers who are intubating this patients just to push narcan and then extubate them.