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Was it due to this guy?
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Love all the knuckleheads not pulling over for her....Somebody is going to have a lot if paperwork to fill out over this one.
Being as it was LA, I guess we should be happy they didn't try to cut across her nose to turn in front of her.Love all the knuckleheads not pulling over for her....
Being as it was LA, I guess we should be happy they didn't try to cut across her nose to turn in front of her.
About time that Kern County finally stepped up their game on policies/protocols. Added Ketamine, TXA, Acetaminophen, push dose epi, plus a specific policy regarding 911 abusers.
They adopted a specific policy where they will refuse transport to known 911 abusers. They will still respond out and verify the patient is not dead/dying and then flat out tell them to piss off.What's this about the abusers?
They adopted a specific policy where they will refuse transport to known 911 abusers. They will stalk respond out and verify the patient is not dead/dying and then flat out tell them to piss off.
As I stated, EMS still responds. They complete a full ALS assessment and if there are no findings that indicate a serious problem they say bye.How do they determine this though? They cry wolf, but what about liability if EMS isn't dispatched and there was a real call?
As I stated, EMS still responds. They complete a full ALS assessment and if there are no findings that indicate a serious problem they say bye.
It is not an AMA. AMA is Against Medical Advise as in the patient should be treated or transported but the patient doesn’t want to. This is the opposite. The patient wants to be transported but isn’t. There are already several places that are doing paramedic refusals. It’s nice to see a CA county hop on the wagon. If it’s successful I can see many other counties following suit.Oh. I'm sorry. My brain is at the point to apparently skipping entire sentences I've read 3 times in a row...?
So the just "WMA" the pt whether they want to or not?
Do they get charges for false emergency calls?
It is not an AMA. AMA is Against Medical Advise as in the patient should be treated or transported but the patient doesn’t want to. This is the opposite. The patient wants to be transported but isn’t. There are already several places that are doing paramedic refusals. It’s nice to see a CA county hop on the wagon. If it’s successful I can see many other counties following suit.
They have also shifted a lot of the liability for these instances to the EMS Medical Director. It’s an extensive process to get your name placed on the list and the patients name has to be on the county wide list of 911 abusers before a medic can refuse transport.
It could save 30 minutes or it could save several hours if you get hit on bed delay. But it should also reduce the amount of times these patients are seen in the ED. There are other systems built in to have the patient referred to services that are better able to help them such as mental health or public nursing/community paramedicineThat's why I said WMA. I kind of made up the term. With Medical Advice. Or would it be. DMC Denied Medical Care (Crew). There aught to be an acronym made.
Sounds like you must be well deserved to be on the crap list to be there.
How much time is this going to save per transport (or lack of, compared to prior times ), or what's hoped?