Self-Defense and EMS

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medic417 said:
Just pull your concealed firearm and shoot them in self defense. Issue solved.

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see related thread. IMPO.... i think that EMS should be allowed to carry some form of self defense. whether it be tazer, pepper spray, or gun... just so long as we treat them after we taze them or whatever... but thats coming from me :P
 
BSI/Scene Safety:excl:, if the scene ain't safe, my *** is out of there!

of course, with few exceptions, one NOT being a disgruntled family member with a knife coming my way
 
Lifeguards For Life said:
Is washing lacerations in the kitchen sink part of you're protocols?
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No, but the idiot was doing it when we got there. We were in the house less than 20 seconds when this happened.
 
SEARCH people this is ragged to shreds.

My former outfit did it right....roll in with a Blackhawk mounting a machine gun, HALO/swim/rappel or otherwise insert carrying automatic weapons, get the pt and boogie.
 
mycrofft said:
My former outfit did it right....roll in with a Blackhawk mounting a machine gun, HALO/swim/rappel or otherwise insert carrying automatic weapons, get the pt and boogie.
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mycrofft said:
My former outfit did it right....roll in with a Blackhawk mounting a machine gun, HALO/swim/rappel or otherwise insert carrying automatic weapons, get the pt and boogie.
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All part of a good CSAR day...
 
medic417 said:
Just pull your concealed firearm and shoot them in self defense. Issue solved.

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Ummm...kind of off topic here, but are you being sarcastic or is EMS in your area allowed to conceled carry? I don't think the can here.
 
Medical professionals shouldn't carry guns. You're in the business of saving lives, not taking them.
 
lightsandsirens5 said:
Ummm...kind of off topic here, but are you being sarcastic or is EMS in your area allowed to concealed carry? I don't think the can here.
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It is service by service. Most services make no policy. If they say no and you are killed your family can sue and win because you were denied right to defend. If they say yes and you do something stupid they are responsible. So that is why most just ignore it and leave it up to you to obey gun laws in your area.
 
Cory said:
Medical professionals shouldn't carry guns. You're in the business of saving lives, not taking them.
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I'm in the business of supporting my family and that means my safety comes first. It is my responsibility to ensure I get back home in as good if not better shape than when I left.
 
medic417 said:
I'm in the business of supporting my family and that means my safety comes first. It is my responsibility to ensure I get back home in as good if not better shape than when I left.
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9/10 times, pulling a gun on an already hostile person just makes them kill you quicker. If something looks dangerous, walk away and call for PD. If it is so sudden that you can't do that, chances are this is gonna be one of those 9.
 
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Cory said:
9/10 times, pulling a gun on an already hostile person just makes them kill you quicker. If something looks dangerous, walk away and call for PD. If it is so sudden that you can't do that, chances are this is gonna one of those 9.
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Please provide the proof. Never mind you can't as that is an opinion not backed by any facts.

It would be nice if we all had that crystal ball that let us know we need to walk away. But if they all of a sudden pull a gun you ain't got time to walk or even run. But at least with a firearm you have if properly educated and trained have a fighting chance rather than being a sitting duck.
 
Granny, show me BOTH hands!

(Hey, a lady weho looked like her tried to kosh me with a call light and stab me with a hidden tableknife in a convo!).
 
Oh, right, I was going to boycott these posts.

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medic417 said:
Please provide the proof. Never mind you can't as that is an opinion not backed by any facts.

It would be nice if we all had that crystal ball that let us know we need to walk away. But if they all of a sudden pull a gun you ain't got time to walk or even run. But at least with a firearm you have if properly educated and trained have a fighting chance rather than being a sitting duck.
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If they all of a sudden pull a gun, and you're really dumb enough to respond by pulling your gun, then you are as good as dead my friend.

You can post all you want, but I am not going to argue with you about this anymore. You cannot change my opinon on this matter.
 
Cory said:
If they all of a sudden pull a gun, and you're really dumb enough to respond by pulling your gun, then you are as good as dead my friend.

You can post all you want, but I am not going to argue with you about this anymore. You cannot change my opinon on this matter.
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Call me dumb again and you can go.......................

I would have more chance fighting back than just letting them shoot me. So I'll take a 1 % chance over a 0% any day.

Not trying to change your opinion because many in EMS have no business carrying guns and sadly many of those have no business even being in EMS.
 
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