the 100% directionless thread

[JPINFV]

So......the police in investigated themselves, and determined that they had done nothing wrong?

No, a grand jury determined that nothing wrong had been done by the police.

 

[irishboxer384]

I think you are all missing the point- this is a great time for local EMS to get more hands on experience with trauma . All the lowlifes rioting want a chance to fight the cops, and all the cops would love a chance to fire some tear gas and baton the crap out of said lowlifes....I'd say many involved are getting what they want lol.....

 

[teedubbyaw]

You're an ignorant fool if you think the officer did anything wrong.

Play stupid games win stupid prizes. I am glad that the jury used facts and didn't let the possible repercussions sway then.

 

[CALEMT]

So......the police in investigated themselves, and determined that they had done nothing wrong?

I do believe it was the Grand Jury who did the investigating, not the police.

 

[terrible one]

So......the police in investigated themselves, and determined that they had done nothing wrong?

Your anti law enforcement views are well documented but are stating that the officer should have been charged?

 

[Angel]

Jamba Juice light is pretty nasty.
Has a weird after taste

 

[Anjel]

Jamba Juice light is pretty nasty.
Has a weird after taste

Smooth change of subject

 

[PotatoMedic]

Well this is a direction less thread...

 

[Handsome Robb]

Generally a different police department will investigate an officer involved shooting, not the department that was directly involved. That's how it is here at least.

 

[MonkeyArrow]

Generally a different police department will investigate an officer involved shooting, not the department that was directly involved. That's how it is here at least.

I heard the St. Louis county police investigated the shooting.

 

[Carlos Danger]

Your anti law enforcement views are well documented but are stating that the officer should have been charged?

1. If I thought Wilson should have been charged, I would have simply stated so.

2. I have no "anti law enforcement views". I am very critical of our criminal justice system; generally more about the unjust laws that cops enforce than about cops themselves. There is a big difference.

We would probably all be much better off if we were more critical of those in positions of authority over us, and more skeptical of what the government tells us. It is extremely naive to believe that cops rarely make mistakes and/or that when they do, they fess up and tell us the truth. Badge worship is unhealthy.

 

[Carlos Danger]

So......the police investigated themselves, and determined that they did nothing wrong?

My point here actually had nothing to do with the grand jury decision or the facts of this case, and everything to do with people's reaction to it.

There is a growing mistrust of law enforcement which, quite frankly, I think is very appropriate and healthy. Police authority has grown dramatically in the past decades, and tactics have become increasingly aggressive, even against non-violent suspects. This has happened largely unchecked until just the past few years.

This mistrust has always been strong in the minority communities, but it is gaining traction mainstream because of the increased availability of alternative sources of information, as well as the very "in your face" militarization of local police forces.

Anyway, the point is that people no longer just assume that the cops have their best interest in mind, and they know that the cops don't always tell us the truth. Example after example after example can easily be found of obvious police misconduct where an "internal investigation revealed that the officer was justified". It has reached the point where people simply don't believe it when they are told that the cops were justified in beating or shooting someone.

 

[TransportJockey]

Does anyone happen to have a copy of the 2nd edition of the Handbook of Pediatric and Neonatal Transport Medicine I could borrow? Used they're going for 250+ on amazon...

 

[Angel]

so...ive really wanted to know the answer to this. but felt rude asking...do flight medics really make good money? and how much?
trying to decide if its a good option for me especially considering most ride with nurses and nurses are in charge

 

[DesertMedic66]

so...ive really wanted to know the answer to this. but felt rude asking...do flight medics really make good money? and how much?
trying to decide if its a good option for me especially considering most ride with nurses and nurses are in charge

The flight medics I know work 10 days a month at their flight job and make decent money (not sure on exact amount but let's say they live in very high class neighborhoods). A lot of the flight medics in my area also have a second job (usually part time job at a private company)

 

[Jim37F]

So our Battalion Chief asked us to hold over until 8:00 tonight (normally get off at 7:30) and considering a traffic collision on the freeway between work and home was just toned out, it might be a good thing staying at station a little extra longer to let traffic die down a little lol

 

[Angel]

@DesertEMT66 hmmm, extra jobs because the want to or have to? This may sound silly but, what exactly do they do on calls? I figure the pt should already be packaged, IVs started...ect? so what? monitor airway and the nurse can give meds out of medic scope?

@Jim37F and get paid for it!

 

[Jim37F]

@Jim37F and get paid for it!

Darn skippy! Not to mention I'm already scheduled for 48 hours this week so it'll pad my overtime as well haha

 

[DesertMedic66]

@DesertEMT66 hmmm, extra jobs because the want to or have to? This may sound silly but, what exactly do they do on calls? I figure the pt should already be packaged, IVs started...ect? so what? monitor airway and the nurse can give meds out of medic scope?

@Jim37F and get paid for it!

I'm think they just do it for something else to do during their 20 days off.

As for what they do depends on the system. Some areas launch HEMS on initial dispatch so there is a chance (slim) that they will be on scene first. The patients are not always fully packaged by the time they get there. They may need to start lines or RSI the patient.

Depending on the company they may also do IFTs.

I've looked into flight for a little while but decided against it. However after I get 2 years on as a medic I will apply for a flight medic position that is more of a SAR position.

 

[Angel]

@DesertEMT66, are there a lot of companies out there? Here majority is reach, calstar (no medics though) and PHI (sort of)...eh idk what i wanna do with my life.