Sasha
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Don't you love semantics?
Should EMS be armed
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medic417
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nibejeebies
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I really dont think that EMTs and Medics should be running around with Guns unless theres a darn good reason for it.
For Example,
The Guy in Canada whtat runs alot of Rural Wilderness calls with Wild Life, but with that It should be a tranq gun not a actual gun.
I agree with the Idea of Vests, in areas of High Crime, as well as in todays tring times where some one will shoot at anyone with uniform becuase they are a "Rep of the Man"
Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt Our Jobs to save and prolong life? How does an EMT/Medic shooting some one acomplish either?
For Example,
The Guy in Canada whtat runs alot of Rural Wilderness calls with Wild Life, but with that It should be a tranq gun not a actual gun.
I agree with the Idea of Vests, in areas of High Crime, as well as in todays tring times where some one will shoot at anyone with uniform becuase they are a "Rep of the Man"
Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt Our Jobs to save and prolong life? How does an EMT/Medic shooting some one acomplish either?
subliminal1284
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The only medics that should have guns are military medics.
nibejeebies
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Actual Guns firing Actual Bullets Should be restricted to Military Medics. Fully agreed.
But some consideration should go for other types of medics. Wilderness Medics for example. Should they not carry anything when responding on a mountain trail to get to a hiker with a femur fracture and comes across a mountain loin, or a rabid bear?
subliminal1284
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I may be wrong but I dont think they would be responding by themselves, there would also be police and park rangers both of which have guns.
HotelCo
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Depends where you are. (More specifically, how available PD is to assist). Even then, the Providers who carry should have the same training as LEOs in firearms. That includes qualifying every few months.
I wonder how the public would feel about their EMS providers being armed.
I wonder how the public would feel about their EMS providers being armed.
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lakersmedic
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Yes, I think we should be armed for sure. I think we run into crazy and dangerous people daily, and sometimes the cops are not always there. We have to feel safe too.
Sasha
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Oh god. Why is this topic back!?
Are you going to shoot them?
Dangerous people will have more street smarts than you and hardened criminals will not hesitate to kill you or your partner if you pull a gun on them.
Crazy people could care less if you have a gun and unless you are prepared to kill them, they will kill you once they get your gun. If you have no police training, this will be very, very easy for them. You will be too busy peeing in your pants while trying to get your gun out of your hiding place to aim at the person. In this time, you could be hauling arse to safety until backup arrives.
The best way is to learn scene safety and wait for backup. You don't have to play cowboy and get some bystander or your partner killed by your own weapon. Confronting either the crazy or dangerous with a weapon is not a very smart thing to do.
They probably just watched some shoot 'em up show and think it is a real cool thing to have a gun. Or, they have not been to a GSW call to know what damage a gun can do.
As you can tell, I have no patience for those that will probably do more harm because they lack arms training and commonsense more than the crazy and the dangerous.
BTW, welcome to the forum lakersmedic. You just entered this thread after 13 pages of a very long debate.
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medic417
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I didn't know it left. Thought it was just taking a nap. :wacko:
Sasha
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It's come to life again. Holy heck, to the zombie shelter!
medic417
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Sasha
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Quick grab your gun. OOPs you said no to them.B)
Honestly, the only use for EMS having a gun that I can see is if there was a zombie takeover....The EMS peeps are always eaten! But as I don't see that happening anytime soon... they're useless.
When it does happen.. shoot 'em in the head.
That was a joke, by the way, I don't really believe in zombies.. (She says as she hides her zombie survival guide.)
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You obviously have not seen what is being recruited by some FDs, ambulances and EMS companies. News flash: They are now on both coasts of the U.S.
The TV trauma/EMS shows are also beginning to look more like the "Invasion of the Zombies" horror flick rather than anything that even closely resembles a medical drama.
JPINFV
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I was wondering who on here owned this bag...
http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=33826&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
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That guy scares me.
PS--- anyone find it ironic that the things at the bottom are called "Z-pak"? =P
PS--- anyone find it ironic that the things at the bottom are called "Z-pak"? =P
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Seeing/treating at 21yo with a self inflicted GSW to the head and still alive when you're only 20 does give one a fairly good idea. People do not place enough emphasis on scene safety. If they did, they would realize that there is no reason for EMS to be armed... Aside from possibly tactical EMS like SWAT...