Re-read what I wrote. I didn't say anything about how she was dressed affecting the outcome. I said videos of cops acting just like this guy - unnecessarily escalating situations - are all over the internet, and usually, most of the comments are made in support of the officer under the presumption that no matter what you can plainly see on the video, the victim must somehow have had it coming. I'm sure some do. The only reason this video was different was because it involved a member of the most trusted profession. In other words, it revealed the fact that cops can and often do use violence even against people who clearly don't deserve it.
let me guess... your a BLM supporter, you follow the racebaiting of Rev Jackson, and you think every time the cops shoot a person that it was murder, even if the facts don't support that claim... do I have that right?
And no, the reason this is different is because the whole situation was captured on video, and the cop was legally in the wrong in his reasoning for initiating the arrest. But again, why let facts get in the way of a good generalization.
All this proves is that, contrary to the "one bad cop" myth, this guy wasn't some lone bad apple. The supervisor himself was encouraging him to arrest someone who was clearly doing nothing wrong, just because they were angry and embarrassed at not being able to march into the unit and break the law themselves.
no, that proves there is a systematic issue within that particular department, which was exactly what I said previously.
Are you serious? Policing isn't even in the top 10 most dangerous professions. Truck drivers, garbage men, and welders are all more likely to be killed on the job. In 2014 more than 20 pizza delivery guys were shot on the job; many more were attacked physically and robbed. And they aren't even intentionally escalating encounters the way that police very often do.
where is the BS flag... I have one somewhere....
Let me see if I can clear up some of your misconceptions. Truck drivers and garbage men die on the job because of vehicle crashes, and most of them aren't being intentionally targeted. I don't know what welders die from. But that's a very interesting statistic you provided about pizza delivery guys, stating 20 were shot on the job in 2014. Does that mean they were all killed? maybe or maybe not. Lets look at the number of cops who were
killed by gunfire in 2014..... The answer is 48. And that number doesn't include the officers who were shot and did survive. I'm not even going to waste my time providing number for how many were assaulted, because you won't see the obvious.
Dangerous professions will get you killed. This we agree on. But how many of those "dangerous professions" will result in your death at the intentional hands of others? I hope you know understand the difference.
They have shifted towards minimizing officer risk at the expense of risk to the public. They dress up like special operators and drive armored vehicles through the streets, mimicking an occupying military force, and displaying a similar mindset. 4th amendment protections have been eroded in order to make it easier for cops to find reasons to exert authority. This is all well documented.
Ahh, I see it now. So an officer's life is less valuable to you now. You'd rather we lose a few more if it kept the public feeling safer. Those armored vehicles are designed to keep the officers safe; they want to go home to their families at the end of every shift, and I don't blame them one bit. I'm sorry if you feel threatened by them wanting to remain alive, but I support this 100%.
In 5 minutes I could list at least a dozen situations from just the past year or so where police abused their authority and hurt people unnecessarily. In 15 minutes I could probably dig up 20 such examples. I won't bother, because I know you'll dismiss every one for one reason or another. If a few hundred of these come across my news feed each year, how many do you think happen that we never hear about? How many times are members of the public intimidated subtly and just plain treated unfairly by cops? Countless times a year. I've seen it myself many times, working with cops in dense urban areas.
So you pick random numbers, don't back them up with facts, acknowledge that in many situations there were justifications for their actions, and then because you can't find any other proof of it, believe it's a systematic conspiracy that is subtle and not reported? I'm not sure whether to give you more tin foil for your hat or say try not to loot anything or cause a riot at your next BLM march.
I will say this: the problem certainly isn't just the fault of the police themselves. Many of the laws that police enthusiastically enforce are simply unjust and unfair, as are many of the penalties for certain crimes. This creates much more pushback and resistance from the "criminals" accused of these crimes than would exist if the laws were simply more reasonable. For example: If I get pulled over and ticketed for speeding, I'll probably be annoyed but I know that speeding could potentially result in my harming others, so I really only have myself to blame. If on the other hand I get pulled over and ticketed for not wearing my seatbelt, I feel rage. It's nobody's f-in business what I do as long as it doesn't harm others. Of course, a $100 ticket is not nearly worth running from the cops or physically fighting them over. If the penalty for not wearing my seatbelt was much more severe however, I would have even more anger - and less incentive to control it with the guy writing me the ticket.
So you are also aware that if you are in a car, involved in a motor vehicle crash, while unrestrained, you become a threat to everyone else in the car too right? There was even a TV commercial about it
Or when you do crash, or someone crashs into you, and you suffer a TBI, as well as other injuries because you were unrestrained, why should my insurance rates go up to pay for your injuries, when many of them could have been minimized had you simply followed the law and worn a seatbelt (which is only there for your safety, how unreasonable).
I bet you don't believe motorcycles or bicyclists should have to wear helmets either.
Oh wait, I get it.... you are one of those entitled snowflakes who feel that if they don't like a law, they should just be able to simply not follow it. Or even worse, you knowingly break the law, and then get made at the officer for doing his job to enforce the law. I mean, how dare a law enforcement officer enforce the law!!!
or are you one of those people who refuse to follow the law, but when someone catching you doing it, you say "but it's not my fault!!!!"
Maybe when you are ready to accept the consequences for your actions (ie, act like a mature adult), then we can talk more.
