the 100% directionless thread

Qulevrius said:
And the horrible thing is, that it has nothing to do with gun laws and has everything to do with mental healthcare.
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And the sad thing is people will use their political agendas to make this a gun control incident. Not even 24 hours later and people are already arguing the merit of stricter gun control and while I feel that this isn't the time to bring up this argument I will say a full auto AK is probably banned in all states (providing you don't go through proper channels).

I will say they're lucky that theres not more deaths. From working the largest music festival in the world I know how dense the population can be at these events. Literally people packed in like sardines. While tragic it could've been way worse.
 
This whole thing is tragic, but I do actually think that we as a society need to have that gun-control conversation. Every single time we've
"waited for the bodies to cool", we've ignored it. Newtown. VT. Pulse. And now Las Vegas.
 
Purity of Arms. That’s all I have to say.


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RocketMedic said:
This whole thing is tragic, but I do actually think that we as a society need to have that gun-control conversation.
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I think there is probably consensus around certain measures...almost everybody wants to have background checks of some kind.
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Qulevrius said:
With nearly 500 casualties, that’s thousands of rounds fired. Even if the crowd was packed shoulder to shoulder. And the horrible thing is, that it has nothing to do with gun laws and has everything to do with mental healthcare.




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Its very likely that a majority of those injuries are trampling injuries.

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Just food for thought the shooting at the senators baseball game was a SKS rifle with a 10 round stripper clip (fixed magazine) and was CA legal. Limiting how guns are loaded and how much they hold doesn't apply to criminals.
 
A situation like that is my biggest professional nightmare. Especially from a hospital-based perspective, going from a non-trauma metro center to (will be going to) a level II that serves both a college town and large areas to the east, there isn't a day that a situation like this doesn't go through my head.
 
There's not really a good way to deal with this.
 
RocketMedic said:
This whole thing is tragic, but I do actually think that we as a society need to have that gun-control conversation. Every single time we've "waited for the bodies to cool", we've ignored it. Newtown. VT. Pulse. And now Las Vegas.
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I don't think that people ignore the issue at all. There are calls for increased gun control all the time, and they get much louder in the wake of these type of attacks, but each time the public has repeatedly responded to that with a resounding "no". The reason, I think, is that most of us fail to be convinced that any of the commonly-proposed gun control measures would have any significantly positive impact on gun violence, and also we've learned that if you give the feds an inch, they'll take a mile. The "slippery slope" fallacy is not a fallacy at all when it comes to our federal government.

I also think that for all the emotion that tragedies like this evoke, most of us understand that these attacks can probably not be stopped by tougher gun laws. These attackers are determined and have plenty of time to plan, prepare, and acquire what they need on the black market. Just because they might not be able to walk into Walmart and 30 minutes later walk out with an "assault rifle" doesn't mean they can't find ways to kill lots of people, if that is their goal. Making guns harder to get will only strengthen the black market. Look at whats happened with heroin and other illicit drugs over the past few decades.

Street crime, which makes up 99% of gun crime in the US, occurs almost exclusively (statistically speaking) in a handful of large urban metros that mostly already have strict gun laws. That fact further erodes public confidence in the effectiveness of stricter gun control.
 
This type of person would have done this by an means necessary, i.e driving a van through the crowd, improvised explosives, illegally obtained firearms, etc. Stricter gun laws will not solve the problem. It is the low hanging fruit that people want to grab onto and think they by banning certain types of firearms that this will be prevented in the future. It is just not true.

How many mass shootings were there when fully automatic weapons were legal in the 70-80s?

Oh and the Hilary "Silencer" comment is infuriating.
 
There is no practical way to solve this. This is a dilemma of: Rights that civilians have vs money.
I can solve every single crime issue ever, give me billions of dollars, and say you won't have rights, and guess what, crime goes away.
This can all trickle back down to guns sure. This can all go to mental health(lets face facts, if you have even the thought of shooting hundreds of people, or blowing them up, or any of those insane ideas in anything else besides GTA, your probably not mentally sane.
The one thing that can really help these problems go away.... THE MEDIA, if everything wasn't meant to scare people, and to have people living in constant fear, personally i think these attacks would rescind.

side note: im waiting for a politician to say CCW holders should have done something, I'd like to meet the geometrical mastermind that can hit a 300m shot 30 stories up with a handgun lol
 
I am astonished by the amount of Facebook and twitter posts saying crap along the lines of "It was a country music concert so they are all republicans and NRA members who deserve it". When did we get this vile.
 
CALEMT said:
I almost won tickets to it on the radio. Probably the only time I'm glad to be a loser.

Makes me want to get my CCW even more now before I make the move out of CA.
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Don't need a CCW in Az., though I have one anyway.
 
On a happier note I've accepted a new job as a county paramedic and now have two weeks to move! Yeah for being free of the private ems agency!
 
FireWA1 said:
On a happier note I've accepted a new job as a county paramedic and now have two weeks to move! Yeah for being free of the private ems agency!
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Congratulations! Where are you heading?
 
DesertMedic66 said:
Ireland?
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Lol, was that seriously the first place you thought of? I was thinking more along the lines of Napoleon Dynamite. I have no idea if I'm any closer than you are though.
 
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