Angel
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LOL, if anyone knows....rocketmedic should.
the 100% directionless thread
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I've never applied to a job that specified that previous employment had to be for greater than 30 days.
All applications I've ever filled out (in and out of EMS) either listed "all previous employment," or "all previous related employment."
Blanket statements based soley on limited personal experience often fail to prove a point.
I should mention that every place I've applied in the medical field included the statement, either on the application, or somewhere on the job description/description of the hiring process, that anyone caught lying during the process would be removed immedietly. My guess is failing to notify them of a previous employer would qualify...cross your fingers and hope the background check isn't in depth if that's the case!
Angel
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you said it.
Why yes, yes I did in fact say it.
Good thing I didn't make a blanket statement based soley on limited experience then, isn't it?
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All pertinent ones, yes. Meaning all my EMS jobs if it's an EMS position, all my nursing jobs if it's a nursing position, and all my management-related jobs if it's a management-related position.
You can rationalize any decision you want. But if you intentionally leave out a piece of information that a prospective employer requested, you are lying. And that's exactly how they will see it if they find out. Spin it any way you want, but that's the reality.
Angel
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Good thing I didn't make a blanket statement based soley on limited experience then, isn't it?
whats that?
Angel
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well ive never done that and never had an issue getting a job....so...imagine how much it doesnt matter?
or how much i care....
nite!
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Yeah, I know. Dishonesty often goes undetected. That's really good news for some.
Angel
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good thing everyones entitled to their opinion.
DesertMedic66
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Might not make a huge difference for most ambulance companies because their background process is a joke. Now the companies that do an extensive background check it will make a huge difference (some of our fire departments are known for calling ex wifes, ex girlfriends, etc)
Angel...the quote you posted was me listing WHAT my own experience has been, not extrapolating that to be the norm.
This is what it looks like when you use your personal experiences to equate a standard:
Angel
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oh trust me, i know the difference. but theres no way im handing in an application 10 pages long listing my entire work history. if i ever wanted to do fire, its a different story.
Angel
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yea...whatd you think i wrote was?? this is why college degrees should be a minimum in EMS
Well...when you said that "most departments don't specify" and then used your own past as an example...I don't know...sounds like you are suggesting, based on your own experience, that it is the norm to not use any employment that was less than 30 days long.
Good thing I got my degree from a Cracker Jack box or I'd be offended...
Angel
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im still bored. this whole subject is boring and im not really sure why were arguing about it. you guys worry about your resumes and applications. ill worry about mine...simple right?
in other news. SHAMELESS is on! everything should come as blu ray
in other news. SHAMELESS is on! everything should come as blu ray
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What do you know about sitting for 6-ish hours for the last 6 hours of a 16 hour shift to hook a breathing problem that's upgraded to an arrest within 30 minutes of your EOS?
My trainee rocked it though, witnessed by a friend, well basically witnessed, he left for a couple minutes, came back and friend was down. PEA, one round of epi, ROSC, STEMI, over breathing the vent within 5 minutes of ROSC.
Puts me in a tough spot though, since I'm "vent certified" I carry a different vent (ReVel) than 'normal' medics. The standard 911 vent is basically a demand valve with RR/TV tied to each other so you have about 5 choices. Having a trainee it's a constant battle of "do I put them on my vent so I can use A/C or SIMV and put them on better settings than the 911 vent can do and take the call from my trainee or do I let them stay on the 911 vent so the trainee can attend the call?
My trainee rocked it though, witnessed by a friend, well basically witnessed, he left for a couple minutes, came back and friend was down. PEA, one round of epi, ROSC, STEMI, over breathing the vent within 5 minutes of ROSC.
Puts me in a tough spot though, since I'm "vent certified" I carry a different vent (ReVel) than 'normal' medics. The standard 911 vent is basically a demand valve with RR/TV tied to each other so you have about 5 choices. Having a trainee it's a constant battle of "do I put them on my vent so I can use A/C or SIMV and put them on better settings than the 911 vent can do and take the call from my trainee or do I let them stay on the 911 vent so the trainee can attend the call?
RocketMedic
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Impressive resuscitation. In that limited context, it would be better to take over the vent portion of the call only and explain what you're doing and why, but let them run the rest, if that's an option. Whether your vent is a BVM or the latest and greatest in precision engineering, it's still a vent, and the important part is that your student is delegating.
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Unfortunately at this point in his FTO time it's just he and I so if I place the vent then I have to attend and he has to drive so he can't provide continuing post-arrest care on the way to the hospital.
Either way I feel like I'm wrong. I'm either doing the patient a disservice or I'm doing my trainee a disservice.
NomadicMedic
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I don't think it's ever a question. Patient always comes first.