the 100% directionless thread

9D4 said:
Got back in the saddle tonight :D
Just went to the gas station. But damn it was amazing. I switched the clutch lever with a shorty so I don't have to use my left hand quite as much since it still hurts a teensy bit when stretched too far.
Also on that note, I start pt for my hand next week. Just need to get a little more ROM back in my wrist and my recruiter said she'd start my papers again. For delayed entry, of course.
On that note though... I no longer know if I want to go through pararescue. Honestly I know it sounds lazy, but I don't really want to put the effort into a 6 minute mile again. It took me a year to get to where I was for the pipeline and to lose the 80 lbs I had too.
As it is, my therapist had me run the other day and my leg gave out after about 3 steps. And through this all I unfortunately used it as an excuse and put on about 30 lbs.
Really not sure how much effort I want to put in to waking up at 4 am every day to train for 2-3 hours like I was.
I've honestly been considering just
saying whatever and finding a different career. As it was my ASVAB scores let me pick anything in any branch. Considering a couple different options.
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Remember, anything Special-ish is not just an "at your best" scenario. It's an entry snapshot. The real question is if you can do it forty straight hours into a mission, dark, hurt, tired, hungry and filthy. It's not cowardice to say you can't. I can't any more, and I'm only 26, and I have no significant medical issues.

If you want to get in and you can, great. But from this veteran's perspective, you're not going to be a great infantryman , and your chances of being a PJ or Green Beret are very low.
 
Remi said:
Whoa there, cowgirl.....trust me, I'm not the least bit worried about your resume or anyone else's. My post wasn't even directed towards you...it was directed towards Rocketmedic.

There is a difference between what you put on your resume and what you put on an application that asks you to list "all previous pertinent employment", or something along those lines.

I've seen lots of applications, and I've never seen one that said "please list all pertinent employment UNLESS it lasted less than three months". In fact some employers ask for extra detail about employment that brief.

If the application you are filling out specifically directs you to omit brief periods of employment, great. If it doesn't say that though, and you don't include it, then you are lying.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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It's not a lie, it's a recognition and admission that things aren't going to work out or that they're not adequate. Jobs are like girlfriends- if it's not working and you're not happy, it's better to be honest and resolve the issue than it is to linger and hope, unless there are no better options. If a better option comes, go for it.
 
On THAT note, big difference between resumes and previous employment on applications.
 
im just seeing a lot of people content with misery.
sorry i cant relate, i hope i never do.
 
RocketMedic said:
It's not a lie, it's a recognition and admission that things aren't going to work out or that they're not adequate. Jobs are like girlfriends- if it's not working and you're not happy, it's better to be honest and resolve the issue than it is to linger and hope, unless there are no better options. If a better option comes, go for it.
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If someone asks you to list all of your previous employers, and you intentionally omit some, it's not a lie?

I guess you'd be OK then, with your prospective employer leaving out certain details of your job responsibilities or shift expectations when you inquire about those things.
 
again, you list all the jobs you've had since you were 16? or whenever you started working?
 
Not every job since 16 is pertinent but all previous EMS jobs are.

Explaining a <90 day employment is difficult without dissing the employer or yourself, but EMS is a small community and being up front about previous employment is better than hiding it. Find a way to spin it so you don't trash the company. No need to list it on your resume but certainly it belongs on a previous empoyment app.
 
Remi said:
If someone asks you to list all of your previous employers, and you intentionally omit some, it's not a lie?

I guess you'd be OK then, with your prospective employer leaving out certain details of your job responsibilities or shift expectations when you inquire about those things.
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Oh, you mean like literally every employer does?

Dabbling in someplace you declined isn't a dealbreaker, and frankly, if an employer wants to quibble over a few days that are easily explained as "not worth the ink it took to print, because it wasn't a positive work environment", they're probably a pretty exclusive group anyway.
 
jobs get a probationary period same way we do. if they dont cut it, then on to the next. not sure why people think you/we owe employers anything, but i digress.
im bored now...shameless season 3 it is!
 
Angel said:
jobs get a probationary period same way we do. if they dont cut it, then on to the next. not sure why people think you/we owe employers anything, but i digress.
im bored now...shameless season 3 it is!
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Exactly. "This place was not adequate for my needs, and I elected to seek alternative employment for mutual benefit before further time, effort and resources were invested in a doomed relationship." Far, far more honest and defensible than "well, I tried, but..."

My time and work are valuable. Not super-valuable, but they have value, and I screen jobs. Those that don't even offer the pretext of what I need are never even contacted. Those that may offer what I need are considered, and just like probationary periods, they're on evaluation too. If they don't showcase what you like, than they're not the one you need to remain at for any length of time longer than you need.

Would you continue to return to a substandard restaurant? A filthy clinic? A crappy bathroom on-post? Would you sink a double-digit percentage of your life into something you knew was selling out your values and goals simply by association?
 
If a company sees that you have many jobs you stay at less than 30 days why should they hire you? The first month or so at most company's you are not bringing in any money to the company. They are paying you to go through and academy/orientation and/or an FTO process. Why hire an employee who possibly won't benefit the company in the slightest?
 
RocketMedic said:
Remember, anything Special-ish is not just an "at your best" scenario. It's an entry snapshot. The real question is if you can do it forty straight hours into a mission, dark, hurt, tired, hungry and filthy. It's not cowardice to say you can't. I can't any more, and I'm only 26, and I have no significant medical issues.

If you want to get in and you can, great. But from this veteran's perspective, you're not going to be a great infantryman , and your chances of being a PJ or Green Beret are very low.
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I'll respectfully disagree. All I'll say, I don't want to start another squabble like the one going on currently.
As of now I think it's bit understandable that my motivation is a little low. I'm a little over 8 weeks post op for a ORIF on my left femur resulting in a plate, 6 screws, 32 stitches and 24 staples. And a little over 6 weeks for a reduction of my scaphoid with another surgical pin.
I'm not too certain anyone wouldn't be considering a couple other options.
 
Depends how you're marketing it. If you're saying "I know all these extra things HIRE ME PLEASEEEE!", you're actually less likely to get an offer at a lot of places, because you are demonstrating a dangerous degree of ambition. If it's a directed, controlled, calm "I will be a higher-level provider", then that's helpful. If it's "studying for nursing", that's great.

All depends what sort of jobs you are seeking too. IFTs generally do not want hyper-motivated for 911.
 
RocketMedic said:
Exactly. "This place was not adequate for my needs, and I elected to seek alternative employment for mutual benefit before further time, effort and resources were invested in a doomed relationship." Far, far more honest and defensible than "well, I tried, but..."

My time and work are valuable. Not super-valuable, but they have value, and I screen jobs. Those that don't even offer the pretext of what I need are never even contacted. Those that may offer what I need are considered, and just like probationary periods, they're on evaluation too. If they don't showcase what you like, than they're not the one you need to remain at for any length of time longer than you need.

Would you continue to return to a substandard restaurant? A filthy clinic? A crappy bathroom on-post? Would you sink a double-digit percentage of your life into something you knew was selling out your values and goals simply by association?
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Agreed. But at least its addressed and out in the open. I imagine any decent employer would understand, but how would they react to discovering a short stint that was never accounted for on the app? Talk about probationary period, that would be an easy dismissal.
 
This is getting old
 
Ewok Jerky said:
Agreed. But at least its addressed and out in the open. I imagine any decent employer would understand, but how would they react to discovering a short stint that was never accounted for on the app? Talk about probationary period, that would be an easy dismissal.
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Like you said, an application is different than a resume. If it wants all history, they'll get it. If it wants the highlights only, they'll get that.
 
9D4 said:
I'll respectfully disagree. All I'll say, I don't want to start another squabble like the one going on currently.
As of now I think it's bit understandable that my motivation is a little low. I'm a little over 8 weeks post op for a ORIF on my left femur resulting in a plate, 6 screws, 32 stitches and 24 staples. And a little over 6 weeks for a reduction of my scaphoid with another surgical pin.
I'm not too certain anyone wouldn't be considering a couple other options.
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Good luck.
 
RocketMedic said:
So I kinda want to do a "Bar Rescue" but for EMS...
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Except to that you need to be able understand what makes a department good in the first place, when one is "cut[ting] the mustard" (your words), and when one is failing.

You aren't capable of that, as your last stint at a so-called "unicorn job" shows.
 
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