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Discussion in 'EMS Talk' started by RocketMedic, Apr 17, 2017.

  1. hometownmedic5

    hometownmedic5 Forum Captain

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    This concept was a principal reason when I decided to go Facebook free. I found minimal value with Facebook, but a huge potential for problems. The stories of people who were fired from their jobs due to something they posted/liked/shared are plentiful. Now we're talking about not even getting past the interview stage of a job because of Facebook. F that noise. I'm over three years Facebook free and it seems like everyday I'm happier and happier with that decision

    I have never had twitter or instagram and I stopped using myspace 15 years ago. Excepting forums, I'm social media free.
     
  2. DrParasite

    DrParasite The fire extinguisher is not just for show

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    I agree, but it's also much easier (and cheaper) to not hire a problem child than to hire him or her and then try to fire them after finding out they are a problem child.

    I guess the real question is how badly do you want the job, and are you willing to risk that your drunken shenanigans (which I did too when I was in college) will put you in a negative light, and your job offer for the place you want to work will be withdrawn as a result?
     
  3. TransportJockey

    TransportJockey Forum Chief

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    I saw that posting, and I even emailed them about it and when they confirmed it, I replied to their email and informed them that I would never be applying to them.
     
  4. Summit

    Summit Critical Crap

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    China is developing a computer system that will track everyone's online activities and cross reference to financial, police, and other databases and come up with a "good citizen" score that employers can use.
     
  5. Tigger

    Tigger Dodges Pucks Community Leader

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    I don't see myself ever applying to such an employer for reasons stated. But if it was that good, I'd take an hour and delete the pictures. Which of course completely ruins any sort of integrity to the process.
     
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  6. GMCmedic

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    I got rid of my facebook after a supposed friend that worked at a local ED tried to get me fired from the ambulance service for an alleged HIPAA violation.

    Wasnt even close to a HIPAA violation but I decided it wasnt worth it.


    I still wouldnt apply anywhere that asked for this type of stuff.


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  7. DesertMedic66

    DesertMedic66 Forum Troll

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    If the job paid enough and I wanted it bad enough I would have no issues with providing that information
     
  8. garyh9900

    garyh9900 Forum Ride Along

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    By giving out your login information I believe your are violating the terms of service that you have agreed to. I'm not sure what kind of character that shows.
     
  9. hometownmedic5

    hometownmedic5 Forum Captain

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    It's a slippery slope. First Facebook. What's next? Text messages? Phone pictures? Home visits? Where do we draw the line? How much freedom and privacy are we willing to give up for whatever prize is on offer?

    I know this isn't a question that has an answer so much as a question that has a million different answers, but its worth thinking about. Sometimes the powers that be arrive at their desired outcome in one big leap. Others do so in many smaller steps...
     
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  10. res1551cue

    res1551cue Forum Crew Member Premium Member

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    What they are looking for is not your login information as much as your username you go by. Most people do not have their facebook set up to www.facebook.com/first.lastname. It helps narrow down the user for background checks. I have to do it when I apply for special jobs and for security clearance reasons. They are mainly looking out for their agency and not hiring some racist thug. One thing people do not understand is that your online presence is an extension of the person and posting racist comments, pictures, etc on twitter, facebook and any other social media can lead to issues for employers down the road. Over the past several years people have been fired for posting negative stuff on facebook and twitter that brought a negative light on departments/employers. Which I am sure if you look at those peoples comments on facebook and twitter prior to that would have lead to early recognition of the issue. People are creatures of habit and with the online age you cannot simply not post something and it not have negative impact. Employers have the right to know what their employees say about them either good or bad. Either way, what you say about your employer it will eventually get to them.

    Eventually it all comes down to respect. If you do not have the respect to keep your comments to yourself about people and your employer then why should an employer hire such people.
     
  11. reaper

    reaper Working Bum

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    ^^^this
    As said already, I would never apply to a service that asked for it. But, not being desperate for a job, gives you these options.

    Some may need the job so much that they are willing to give up their privacy for it. That is each persons choice to make.

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  12. Summit

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    Respect? That is completely asinine. So is comparing an ambulance or firefighter job with something requiring *real* security clearances (Fire/EMS don't even rate comparable with a mere Confidential c 7 year NACLC).

    Online presence is only an extension of a public persona if you have no privacy settings. If you have privacy settings, facebook etc are like a party at my house with my friends and family, or a private conversation. My employer is not invited.

    If they just want a username so that they can see what is publicly projected (with me they would see very very little), that would be hard to object to. But asking for log in information is a blatant invasion into your private realm. It gives them full access to even the most security restricted data, private conversations, etc. At that level of invasion it is literally no different than letting them read your entire email archive, phone messages, or your diary. Further it is an invasion of anyone who has granted you special rights to view their restricted posts and pictures on facebook, besides private messages.
     
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  13. DrParasite

    DrParasite The fire extinguisher is not just for show

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    On an related note, one of my IT colleagues were discussing what to bring to an interview, and what the interviewer (or panel) might ask to see. Since I always bring my iPad, I said I would have no problems showing that (if they want to go through my comic collections, more power to them). He said he never brings his phone in with him. What if they ask to see your phone, in the interview, to see what you have on it? See what applications, what social media content, what sexting photos, etc. If you refuse to provide it, it can be a red flag and you might not get the job. if you say you don't have one, but you were using it in the lobby, then they know you were lying. if it's in the car, they won't ask you to get it.

    Is it a gross invasion of privacy? sure. does anyone want a potential hiring manager to go through their phone? probably not. but what privacy expectations are you willing to give up to get a really good job, which can lead to a great high paying career?
     
  14. Summit

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    The deck is stacked and some privacy protecting legislation is in order here.

    To any of you saying, "well for the right price..." make sure your friends and family know that any private communication/photo they have sent you may be turned over to a POTENTIAL employer if the job looks good enough.

    You should re-read the quote in your signature.
     
  15. DrParasite

    DrParasite The fire extinguisher is not just for show

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    DrParasite The fire extinguisher is not just for show

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    I agree
    Scary thought isn't it?
    It's one of my favorite lines ever to be spoken by a comic book character.

    And while it's great to take a moral stand on things, it's kind of like the first amendment..... yes you have the right to say what you want, but there can also be consequences to making said statements. you can refuse to allow the invasion of privacy to occur, but then you can't be surprised when it affects your condition of employment.
     
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  17. TransportJockey

    TransportJockey Forum Chief

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    So... I called out the service referenced in the op. And got this in return
    [​IMG]

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  18. akflightmedic

    akflightmedic Forum Deputy Chief

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    Just the alias....ok...I give a name, good luck finding it. I change it the moment I walk out.

    And yes I know when you change your FB name it is yours for 6 months....so keep that in mind.

    Or maybe it was 60 days....I forget exactly but ti does make you keep it for a length of time before you can change it again.
     
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  19. RocketMedic

    RocketMedic Just Like Otters!

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    That makes a little more sense. Still not going to apply though.
     

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