Paramedic Shortages

If your paramedics need to work 60-80 hour weeks to put food on the table, or send their kids to college, or afford to live within 30 minutes of where they work, is it any surprise you don't have many applicants.
Along those lines...

What about once one is making say $80k/year, and living an "$80k/year lifestyle". The house, the cars, the toys, mouths to feed, the whole enchilada?

I would venture to guess their cost: affordability ratio goes up along with their income, forcing them (if you will) to work more hours than just their annual income mark.

This, I would think, is applicable to any career field.
 
When I was watching the "OT wh0re" medics it became pretty obvious that once you're taking home better than 85k, it becomes really hard to go back to a $55,000 lifestyle.
 
When I was watching the "OT wh0re" medics it became pretty obvious that once you're taking home better than 85k, it becomes really hard to go back to a $55,000 lifestyle.
Yes, this is very much the truth. I, myself, work OT if, and when I can. It doesn't make me feel like I need to quit, or that I cannot make a career out being a paramedic in one way or another.

Am I always thrilled? No, but then it would not be a job to me. I can work as much OT as I want, or not. If anything, this is more of an afforded benefit while others in the general workforce struggle to find overtime when they it need to scrape by for college tuition, birthdays, the holidays, or just life in general.

If you do not know how to budget accordingly once you're somewhat settled in life (however, one may define this), then you have bigger issues at hand than to blame your particular career field, job choice, or both. Perhaps it is "I" who's the fool, but again, I must reiterate much of this boils down to individual perspective!
 
On the other coin, we need management who wants to do more than just run calls. Ive been pushing to get home visits off the ground and its happened in limited occurrences with a handful of other providers, but our management says "Home visits dont make money, we can bill for that" and other Providers are more than happy to sit on the couch and watch TV for 12 hours. Its difficult to motivate them and make them understand why preemptive care is better for us
That is my whole issue. I work for a small place, we cannot afford to hire people that are content to run their four calls per 24 and that's it. Management or not, we need people who have motivation to do other things.
 
we cannot afford to hire people that are content to run their four calls per 24 and that's it.
Am I the only one who finds it ironic that as whole we seem to piss and moan if we're too busy, and then again if we're too slow?
 
Am I the only one who finds it ironic that as whole we seem to piss and moan if we're too busy, and then again if we're too slow?
If people weren't complaining, something would be wrong.
 
Where is here and how is reciprocity? I'm finishing my EMT in December (National Registry) and am in a place I can pack and go anywhere.
In SoCal. I would avoid coming to CA for a long list of reasons
 
Am I the only one who finds it ironic that as whole we seem to piss and moan if we're too busy, and then again if we're too slow?

Those who complain will always complain; sadly, they become the face of us rather than those who just show up and work.


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Those who complain will always complain; sadly, they become the face of us rather than those who just show up and work.


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I don't agree. "shut up and show up to work" is the worst possible thing for this job or any other job. Who's your medical director; Joseph Stalin? If we all did that, things would never improve or advance. Many of the concerns and complaints people have are very valid and many require attention not only regionally, but industry wide in my opinion.
 
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I don't agree. "shut up and show up to work" is the worst possible thing for this job or any other job. Who's your medical director; Joseph Stalin? If we all did that, things would never improve or advance. Many of the concerns and complaints people have are very valid and many require attention not only regionally, but industry wide in my opinion.
That's not what I took away from @gotshirtz001 post, but perhaps he can elaborate.

I show up, and do my job the best I can; there are times to speak up, but senseless complaining does nothing for anyone but bring everyone down. Do I ever gripe? Sure, everyone does. And I would disagree that many complaints are valid.

A lot of what people fail to see is what they can't. It isn't necessarily their fault, but constantly pissing and moaning about the same old stuff does nothing for morale anywhere I have worked, regardless of the career field.

This was part of the reason I sought to become a supervisor, I was tired of not knowing what I didn't know. Several years later and people still complain about things they know nothing about.

I have learned there are many aspects to management I don't fully understand, but with that being said, what I have learned is sometimes it's better just to let things run their course.

Now, on the other hand, being in a position to offer up my input for those who's voice may have otherwise gone unseen or unheard when they suggest things of value is an added bonus. As is being able to voice my opinion and it feeling as though it's being heard/ validated within reason, and at appropriate times.
 
I don't agree. "shut up and show up to work" is the worst possible thing for this job or any other job. Who's your medical director; Joseph Stalin? If we all did that, things would never improve or advance. Many of the concerns and complaints people have are very valid and many require attention not only regionally, but industry wide in my opinion.

My intent was that people who complain will always find something to complain about... If we're too busy, it's all the ******** calls; if it's too slow, it's that we are not being used properly.

As far as I am concerned, if an employer has reasonable expectations for work volume and performance while paying me the agreed amount on time, I have very little to complain about.

If an employer follows these basic ideals and I become unhappy with my work situation, it's me that has changed. I will offer a solution that I think will improve my work situation knowing that it may not fit with managements priorities. If the suggestion is rejected, I can either suck it up or do something different.

I have found that those who complain usually do so without offering a suitable solution; "suitable" means that it is a win/win for management as well as labor. These people tend to expect significant raises for little or no added responsibility.

If you ask my coworkers, I am neither quiet nor am I a "complainer".




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I only complain when I don't get to eat... but thats just me being hangry.
 
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I show up, and do my job the best I can; there are times to speak up, but senseless complaining does nothing for anyone but bring everyone down. Do I ever gripe? Sure, everyone does. And I would disagree that many complaints are valid.
With all due respect, there is a big difference between complaining/griping just for the sake of complaining, and complaining because you want to make things better. I can't stand griping, especially from a person in authority to subordinates; they can't do anything about it. But if you have a legitimate complaint, as well as a solution to the issue, than we can change the culture of suck to a culture where everyone is working to make things better.
This was part of the reason I sought to become a supervisor, I was tired of not knowing what I didn't know. Several years later and people still complain about things they know nothing about.
Agreed, but the failure to communicate is more often tied to management and supervisors who refuse to explain things to the lowly peons. While I agree that the line staff doesn't need to be consulted or advised on every little decision, when there are issues, and management can't fix them (for whatever reason), then MANAGEMENT needs to explain why to the line staff.

Every agency has issues, regardless of where you are. Some are fixable, some are not. But one of the surefire ways to kill morale is for management to blame line staff for issues beyond their control, and for line staff to report issues to management, only for them to be chronically ignored.
I have learned there are many aspects to management I don't fully understand, but with that being said, what I have learned is sometimes it's better just to let things run their course.

Now, on the other hand, being in a position to offer up my input for those who's voice may have otherwise gone unseen or unheard when they suggest things of value is an added bonus. As is being able to voice my opinion and it feeling as though it's being heard/ validated within reason, and at appropriate times.
And that's often all you need. Listen to the issues, and acknowledge their existence. Bonus points for working on resolving them.

Managers often forget to consult the line staff when changes are made. As one of the stake holders (that's a corporate word, meaning anyone who might be affected by the change), they are the ones who will be carrying out this change, so they might have an opinion on whether it might be a good or bad idea. It might not change anything, but at least you can review it before it gets implemented, and before you have a huge back lash due to management making stupid policies, not caring about line staff, for no reason other than they want to run their crews into the ground for arbitrary reasons. If you explain those reasons, it helps things go over better.
 
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