note taking in medic class

Hastings said:
Actually, the girl in the front played World of Warcraft during lectures. True story. Now, I wasn't quite that bad...
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Neither was I...I was very productive: I browsed this site in class! (it wasn't an EMS related class though)

I took my laptop to classes where I would be taking notes that don't involve something I couldn't type quickly or had to draw (ie Chem or math)...Some of the teachers incouraged bringing laptops. One of the professors sent us the powerpoint slides before class t so we could all go over them

I used to have a tablet PC that I would bring to class, I could jot all the notes and leave some room for typing
 
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I also forbid my students to use computers. In fact, many of my assignements are to handwritten in an effort to reduce plagerism that so many smart a$$ college students attempt. Handwritten effort requires the insertion, even if temporary, of the material.

Also, to mimic what Rid mentioned, I too believe more than a few could use some extra practice with the written word........................................
 
Flight-LP said:
In fact, many of my assignements are to handwritten in an effort to reduce plagerism that so many smart a$$ college students attempt. Handwritten effort requires the insertion, even if temporary, of the material.
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What kind of assignments? If a teacher asked me to write more than 1+ page...it's getting typed.

However, I will say that since using a computer, my spelling has worsened. I couldn't live without spell check!
 
Flight-LP said:
I also forbid my students to use computers. In fact, many of my assignements are to handwritten in an effort to reduce plagerism
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I have been using a computer to write since 1981. If a teacher insisted on handwritten assignments because he/she suspected plagiarism, I would seriously consider leaving the class. It is insulting to be told, without any evidence to suggest a propensity, that I would ever cheat like that.
 
to add on to my previous statement, if I am going to use someone else's work, I will cite it properly.
 
Flight-LP said:
I also forbid my students to use computers. In fact, many of my assignements are to handwritten in an effort to reduce plagerism that so many smart a$$ college students attempt. Handwritten effort requires the insertion, even if temporary, of the material.
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Hypothetically, suppose I'm a plagiarizer. My computer and the Internet help me to plagiarize. I do the plagiarism, compose my plagiarized paper on the computer, and write it out by hand, copying what I composed on the computer. How has having to turn in a handwritten paper stopped me from plagiarizing?

Also, to mimic what Rid mentioned, I too believe more than a few could use some extra practice with the written word........................................
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Thine own self included, yes? ("... many of my assignements [sp.] are to be [missing word] handwritten in an effort...") :D :P
 
Kaisu said:
I have been using a computer to write since 1981. If a teacher insisted on handwritten assignments because he/she suspected plagiarism, I would seriously consider leaving the class. It is insulting to be told, without any evidence to suggest a propensity, that I would ever cheat like that.
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Be very careful in describing that "I did not plagiarized". My University has a program that it runs your paper through to see if any comparisons in former papers and articles. If they are not cited properly, then one is assumed to plaguerized and can be expelled immediately.

Again, nothing wrong with electronic media.. but, although one paid for the class, it is ultimately the instructors class. It is up to them to decide what is allowable and not, as well few of my lectures and speeches are copyrighted.

R/r 911
 
Ridryder911 said:
it is ultimately the instructors class. It is up to them to decide what is allowable and not

R/r 911
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That may be, but if the instructor does not posses the discernment to judge ability and character in his/her students , especially after a few classes, then they really can't teach me much that I couldn't learn on my own.

I expect a lot from my teachers because I put a lot into the classes. It's a two way street.
 
i would delight in any instructor/professor that required me to hand write anything over a paragraph. i have a(well documented) fine motor deficiency that has never been successfully managed. my handwriting is barely legible to me, much less anyone else. you want three pages in my own hand? gladly sir. but your not going to be able to read it, and since you REQUIRED it to be hand written, you cant penalize me because you cant read it.
 
Ridryder911 said:
Be very careful in describing that "I did not plagiarized". My University has a program that it runs your paper through to see if any comparisons in former papers and articles. If they are not cited properly, then one is assumed to plaguerized and can be expelled immediately.

Again, nothing wrong with electronic media.. but, although one paid for the class, it is ultimately the instructors class. It is up to them to decide what is allowable and not, as well few of my lectures and speeches are copyrighted.

R/r 911
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Ah, good old Turnitin.com. I've always wondered, since they're making money off of having my papers in a database, isn't it essentially profiting off of my work without compensating me? That's a completely different thread, though.

As far as handwritten assignments vs computer typed assignments. If you want it handwritten, fine, but don't complain about my hand writing. Of course typewritten should be a perfectly acceptable alternative (yes, I do have a type writer and did use it from time to time in high school and college, especially for various applications).
 
for the "no typewritten papers etc", this is a page from my notebook chosen at random. note this is not written single spaced, so you have to imagine this handwriting being crammed into single spaced and college ruled paper.

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so you want ten pages on the histry of rapid sequence induction, single spaced college ruled and handwritten? ok, but stock up on the advil
 
JJR512 said:
Hypothetically, suppose I'm a plagiarizer. My computer and the Internet help me to plagiarize. I do the plagiarism, compose my plagiarized paper on the computer, and write it out by hand, copying what I composed on the computer. How has having to turn in a handwritten paper stopped me from plagiarizing?


Thine own self included, yes? ("... many of my assignements [sp.] are to be [missing word] handwritten in an effort...") :D :P
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Touche, irony at its best! :)

While on the subject of irony, I ponder as to why I have never had one student question the assignment, yet I now read a whole page of complaints, excuses, and methods to deviate the process? Only in EMS.....................

See one, do one, teach one.................
 
On average, how long are your assignments? Are we talking 1-2 pages written or the equivalent of 6-7 pages typed?
 
Personally, I always taught one is supposed to have an outline prior to class periods. As one is supposed to be already familiar with the material and the instructor is to emphasize and clarify things.. One should already have an idea of the content and allow individual notes and footnotes as necessary.

A couple of things I DON"t do: Read from the book or read from the powerpoint!

R/r 911
 
Ridryder911 said:
Personally, I always taught one is supposed to have an outline prior to class periods. As one is supposed to be already familiar with the material and the instructor is to emphasize and clarify things.. One should already have an idea of the content and allow individual notes and footnotes as necessary.

A couple of things I DON"t do: Read from the book or read from the powerpoint!

R/r 911
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While reading the material before hand you make an outline of the chapter and then, during the lecture, you can add anything that the instructor might add or clarify to your outline?
 
A few comments about plagiarism. I'm sure I've missed quite a few cases, especially when I just give credit for completing the assignment, but I almost always catch students who plagiarize essays. Turnitin.com works wonders, and when I don't feel like using the service, google is a great tool.

I have little respect for those who plagiarize and present plagiarized work as their own, especially at the college level.
 
JJR512 said:
Studies have shown that children who are taught to print (write regular letters, rather than cursive) all throughout their schooling (and are never taught cursive writing) can write just as fast as children who are taught to write in cursive. Not sure how or if that relates to effort of writing, just thought I'd throw that out there. :)
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My print writing is very "woman ish" so I have been told. It is very bubbly(not too sure on that spellling LOL!) And very VERY neat. Cursive on the other hand was never emphasized enough and looks like I was writing with an earthquake occuring.
 
Ridryder911 said:
Personally, I always taught one is supposed to have an outline prior to class periods. As one is supposed to be already familiar with the material and the instructor is to emphasize and clarify things.. One should already have an idea of the content and allow individual notes and footnotes as necessary.

A couple of things I DON"t do: Read from the book or read from the powerpoint!

R/r 911
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that makes a lot of sense. in most classes i've been in i've been able to do that and it really does help. one thing that i do find very annoying are instructors that hand us the powerpoint and then proceed to read the powerpoint for the next 8 hrs verbatim.

the thing i've found with medic school is that one we had 13 textbooks for last term, and two that many of the instructors don't use the book at all. what they want us to know is in their lecture so it's a lot less "emphasizing" and more really presenting the material. the other is that we often don't really know what will be covered on a given day. we might have a general idea from the course outline but that's a flexible schedule.

it's another reason why it makes note taking ahead of time a lot more difficult :p
 
Here is a spin on the 'note taking' aspect of it with a laptop. Personally while I was in college and Basic class I took a tablet PC, basically I spin the lid around and now it looks like a notebook and I don't have easy access to a keyboard/mouse/pointer to switch around. Plus it has the upside of I can't hide the screen easily from the instructor.

I then write directly on the screen like I do on my notebook but I can also use google to search for an example image to go along with hte class and all kinds of other neat features. To me it is less distracting, there is no typing, and I am good at not drifting.

I start paramedic classes Sept 2nd and I don't know what his policy on laptops/electronics will be but I hope I can continue to use mine, I have a system and it works really well for me. Plus unlike a real notebook I can rearrange my notes as needed on the fly.
 
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