JPINFV
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When was the last time a third party actually won an electoral vote again?
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Maybe it would happen more often if people would stop using that as a rational for not voting for a candidate that probably is more in line with their views than one of the big (same 'ole) 2. I can't count the number of people I've heard describe their views in a way that lines up perfectly with a third party, complain about their disenchantment with the 2 parties, and then refuse to vote third party.
So maybe they only get a few percent this year....than a few more percentage points in a couple of years...then a few more as they become more viable...etc.
What is going to be different if one party or the other wins again? I can still remember when Bush was pro small government and all that...but its pretty hard. The parties have become completely homogenized....
How about: vote for the person you agree most with...ignore all the horse race junk...
So maybe they only get a few percent this year....than a few more percentage points in a couple of years...then a few more as they become more viable...etc.
What is going to be different if one party or the other wins again? I can still remember when Bush was pro small government and all that...but its pretty hard. The parties have become completely homogenized....
How about: vote for the person you agree most with...ignore all the horse race junk...
EMTinNEPA
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:usa: Amen, brother. Amen.
Sasha
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OBAMA WON!
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JPINFV
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Now announcing the new Director of Homeland Security, Bill Ayers!
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Sasha
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Why? Our economy is finally going to improve, and this country is finally going to do a U-Turn and start going in the right direction.
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That won't happen until a Libertarian or a Libertarian minded candidate is elected. Closest we got was Ron Paul.
Not close enough.
And if the name Bob Barr was even mentioned today by a major news station, it was about how pathetic his numbers would be...
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i think the saddest part about this whole process is that you(and im using you here to represent the entire party, not just you sasha) actually believe that....
Sasha
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Yeah, imagine that. Not everyone is a complete cynic.
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^ Touche, Sasha ^_^
I don't think much is going to change. They're all lying politicians. I do think it's cool that we've gotten our first African American president, though. Yay equality!
I don't think much is going to change. They're all lying politicians. I do think it's cool that we've gotten our first African American president, though. Yay equality!
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Because those of us that are a little older have seen all this before. I don't see the magic man doing much to improve this country. I do not think any of them were worth voting for. You just had to pick the lesser of all evils. Our economy is on a down hill slide and most of that is out of the government's hands. I just hope our military does not suffer from this decision. Then we will see a whole new country come into play and it won't be the U.S.A.!!
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Dont make this about age, dude. Seriously. Dont.
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Why not?
Im only in my very early twenties, but I respect the words of those older than me. I know that age brings prospective and wisdom.
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Exactly, I stated that the older members have seen it before. That is the truth and something you have to come to understand. We have seen other Presidents come to office, promising changes. It never happens. The President of this country does not have the power to push changes. It takes the entire government to make any changes happen. This never gets done because politicians are out for their own agendas. They refuse to come together for the greater good of the people.
I hope the man can prove us wrong, but I doubt anyone is holding their breath. I will commend the man, if he can turn this country around. Until then, I don't buy the used car salesman speeches, that provide no solutions to the problem at hand!
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Congress is a joke. Our founding fathers would be ashamed of how generally pig-headed, corrupt and foolish Congress is today. Even the best President wouldn't be able to do jack with this type of Congress. Not to mention other problems amongst the entire spectrum of government impeding progress.
It's almost always a decision for the lesser of two evils. In all honestly, I was undecided and slightly leaning more towards McCain until he picked Palin. I had nightmares about a Palin succession to presidency the night that was announced. It was horrific.
Regardless of your pick, I hope all of you can see the significance of a black man being elected president, and by such a wide margin. It really struck me last night as my dad and I were watching the results together. When my dad was about my age, he was immersed in the Civil Rights Movement atmosphere of race riots, the emergence of desegregation busing (which resulted in violent beatings and fights at his high school), the assassination of MLK jr., and clearly racially-motivated police brutality. At the time he could have never imagined that his child would one day be voting for a black man for the presidency.
I find it pretty amazing that just 50 years after African Americans were struggling to gain the right to go to the same restaurants and send their kids to the same schools as whites, we've elected a black man as President.
It's almost always a decision for the lesser of two evils. In all honestly, I was undecided and slightly leaning more towards McCain until he picked Palin. I had nightmares about a Palin succession to presidency the night that was announced. It was horrific.
Regardless of your pick, I hope all of you can see the significance of a black man being elected president, and by such a wide margin. It really struck me last night as my dad and I were watching the results together. When my dad was about my age, he was immersed in the Civil Rights Movement atmosphere of race riots, the emergence of desegregation busing (which resulted in violent beatings and fights at his high school), the assassination of MLK jr., and clearly racially-motivated police brutality. At the time he could have never imagined that his child would one day be voting for a black man for the presidency.
I find it pretty amazing that just 50 years after African Americans were struggling to gain the right to go to the same restaurants and send their kids to the same schools as whites, we've elected a black man as President.
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You know, this is what is upsetting me the most. Personally, I could care less if he was green, blue or purple. The truth is he is NOT Black African he is Mulatto!
His father was definitely African decent, but his mother was white and fair skinned and he was raised by his white grand parents.
Again, it really doesn't matter except the media (as usual) who described the race was immaterial is now re-enforcing incorrectly.
R/r 911
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His skin is black, he is a minority. It doesnt matter what kind of black he is, in my opinion. I think its amazing that he is the president. Not only do I think he is the best canidate, but it kind of instills hope, you know? Hope that America isnt the as bigoted as it used to be, that we are finally moving away from racism. Its awesome, and I am happy to be alive to see it.
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Now that the election is over, let's get back to talking about EMS.
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