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Tigger

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If you're going to post numbers, maybe post where you got them?
 

FiremanMike

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The numbers I watch are the ones on my local state's health department website as well as the WHO status updates
 

DrParasite

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I think he's asking you to post the links to where you found your numbers.... so others can see what your source was.

Otherwise, your numbers can be as made up and fake as @RedBlanketRunner
 

FiremanMike

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I'm not talking about obscure sites here..


You are free to google your own state's DH website..
 

RedBlanketRunner

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@DrParasite The quoted statements I made you are refuting were Trump quotes. I thought that was rather obvious.
"When you are aiming down intently on a rabbit you might not notice you are about to fall off a cliff."
 
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Everyone, this is your friendly reminder to play nice. This thread is for Corona virus, not for blaming whatever on any one particular person or group of people. Stick to the facts as we know it (and we can therefore see how things evolve over time) and we can Monday Morning Quarterback this when it's all over.
 

VentMonkey

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The silver lining to all of this?...

It’s all but confirmed decades-worth of our most obvious suspicions...

The majority of people’s “emergencies” can, in fact, wait.
 

GMCmedic

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Between 3 local EDs, 2 of which are level 2 Trauma centers, the third is a comprehensive stroke center depending on the day of the week. They average ~100 ED patients a day each, are down to 20 a day. Nearly all of which are discharged home.

Were not even gearing up for a Covid rush anymore, now were gearing up for the people that have been ignoring their symptoms for 3 weeks.
 
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akflightmedic

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Hospital and EMS calls way down here in Maine too. ER sent home several travelers as not needed, been cutting hours of staff or reassigning to other units.

12 beds of the 48 bed ER have been converted to COVID holding. Cardiac floor has converted 18 rooms to COVID inpatient ward.

Fun fun....we are only around 240 +/- confirmed cases here so far, however we have had a HUGE influx of New Yorkers, Massholes, and New Hampshirians flee their state to come to their second homes...of course potentially bringing in whatever they were fleeing. :p
 

RedBlanketRunner

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U.S. reported infections on runaway at 122,000+ up from 33,000+ a week ago. First place world wide. However, as a testament to the medical community efforts, the mortality rate is 6th place. Definitely doing something right. Fingers crossed.

I was asked why am I so interested in this. Took a moment to reflect. What have I been doing the past 12+ years? Teaching hygiene, disease prevention along with testing and shoveling data up the slope to the number crunchers. In turn the statistics and watch fors would trickle back down and were of acute interest. On more occasions than I can count they would point out trends and give notices of problem zones and impending outbreaks. We have a pretty hefty load of common diseases here and the stats are all we've got for putting the effort where it's needed the most.

A perfect example of connecting statistics dots ending up with a win-win-win. There was endemic version of schistosomiasis here. Field health care workers gleaned numbers and tossed them up the ladder. Misinformation and gossip was nailed down as the cause. Rice farmers had become convinced the open bill storks were eating the young rice plants and hunted them into endangered status in the country. Word went out through both government announcement and, more importantly, word of mouth passed on to the locals who seldom if ever heard government noise. PROTECT THE STORKS. They don't eat plants. They are carnivores and their preferred diet is snails. They are protecting you farmers from disease.
Word trickled on out. A year ago I saw them clearing vegetation out of a river. Dozens of villagers were sifting through the muck and mess looking for crabs and fingerling fish. They all had a plastic bags covering their hands and as they searched they would pick out the snails and toss them away from the river where they would die. The storks are now a common sight in the rice fields and the parasitic infections have dropped to a small handful at present.
 
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FiremanMike

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U.S. reported infections on runaway at 122,000+ up from 33,000+ a week ago. First place world wide. However, as a testament to the medical community efforts, the mortality rate is 6th place. Definitely doing something right. Fingers crossed.

I was asked why am I so interested in this. Took a moment to reflect. What have I been doing the past 12+ years? Teaching hygiene, disease prevention along with testing and shoveling data up the slope to the number crunchers. In turn the statistics and watch fors would trickle back down and were of acute interest. On more occasions than I can count they would point out trends and give notices of problem zones and impending outbreaks. We have a pretty hefty load of common diseases here and the stats are all we've got for putting the effort where it's needed the most.

A perfect example of connecting statistics dots ending up with a win-win-win. There was endemic version of schistosomiasis here. Field health care workers gleaned numbers and tossed them up the ladder. Misinformation and gossip was nailed down as the cause. Rice farmers had become convinced the open bill storks were eating the young rice plants and hunted them into endangered status in the country. Word went out through both government announcement and, more importantly, word of mouth passed on to the locals who seldom if ever heard government noise. PROTECT THE STORKS. They don't eat plants. They are carnivores and their preferred diet is snails. They are protecting you farmers from disease.
Word trickled on out. A year ago I saw them clearing vegetation out of a river. Dozens of villagers were sifting through the muck and mess looking for crabs and fingerling fish. They all had a plastic bags covering their hands and as they searched they would pick out the snails and toss them away from the river where they would die. The storks are now a common sight in the rice fields and the parasitic infections have dropped to a small handful at present.
Are you aware that tests are taking 7+ days to return in stable patients and 2-3 days on critical patients?

You’re not necessarily seeing a surge in new cases, you’re seeing a surge in test result returns.
 

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Are you aware that tests are taking 7+ days to return in stable patients and 2-3 days on critical patients?

You’re not necessarily seeing a surge in new cases, you’re seeing a surge in test result returns.
we send sick people home without testing on o2
We test them a few days later when they come back and get admitted
then we wait for result
How do you think that skews stats
 

Peak

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Are you aware that tests are taking 7+ days to return in stable patients and 2-3 days on critical patients?

You’re not necessarily seeing a surge in new cases, you’re seeing a surge in test result returns.
We are finally starting to see all of our test come back at quicker pace, but are still easily averaging 2-4 days for all of our patients. Not only are you seeing a surge of a week ago, but the tests that are coming back now.
 

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Are you aware that tests are taking 7+ days to return in stable patients and 2-3 days on critical patients?

You’re not necessarily seeing a surge in new cases, you’re seeing a surge in test result returns.
In high prevalence areas like NYC (which has about 1/4th the number of cases in the US) we are seeing testing at some hospitals come back in about 8hrs now. Its more a surge in the number of tests than anything.
 

Peak

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Apparently Abbott has developed a 5 to 13 minute test for COVID 19. I hop that this is accurate and it gets to be rolled out soon.

I do find it odd that the government is willing to facilitate a possibly questionable COVID test, but is also willing to take away the lactate cartridges that are so critical to the every day function and efficiency of EDs, ICUs, PICUs, and Cardiac ICUs accross the country. I'm very happy for the potential of a 5 minute COVID test, but far more patients have had care delayed by us not being able to perform bedside lactate testing.
 

RedBlanketRunner

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Are you aware that tests are taking 7+ days to return in stable patients and 2-3 days on critical patients?
Slightly less than 7 days, and out in the remote villages where there may be no community water system or reliable electric power nearly every home has a near new vehicle they are trying to make payments on and every person has a cell phone. Internet out there? Cell, tablet and lap top, I can't avoid it. And of course I don't live out there. Had a nice jeep that helped loose the Vietnam war I put a half million miles on during my little commutes.
You really could benefit from an little bit more open mind. I've heard all the rhetoric and misinformation but I try to read it all. I'm always open to new ideas, correcting my thinking, and absorbing other peoples knowledge. Various peoples comments here have been taken to heart and are now part of my knowledge base. Care to join me?

I'm very happy for the potential of a 5 minute COVID test,
That test would go a long long way in breaking this pandemic's back. A whole heck of a lot of providers are constantly checking for updates on the progress.
 

RedBlanketRunner

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Otherwise, your numbers can be as made up and fake as @RedBlanketRunner
I like that! Funny, I crank out numbers from multiple country sources and the US people say "FAKE" while they lagged behind almost everyone else in testing. Care to review some of my past posts now?
Here's another fake number for you I heard around March 10: "We will have over 1 million infections by April." FAKE! Might be April 2nd by the time it gets that high.

What's so sweet and endearing about that is all my numbers come from sources that have proven to be trustworthy. Even more darling is the western world mentality that they are the center of the universe and there couldn't possibly be the slightest variation from their info and situation and third world countries. IE, The prima donna complex.
 
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