Are Medics Esentially RNs In rigs

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I've heard this a lot, friends always tell me that Medics are basically RNs In riggs. If not, what's the difference?
 
No.

Can't type a lot right now though. So that is all.
 
The short answer is, no. Paramedics aren't Nurses on the road. In particular, they don't usually have the pathophysiology knowledge that nurses have, not the general pharmacology knowledge that nurses have, and don't have to do time management in the same way that nurses do.

On top of the difference in education, Paramedics and Nurses have a different mission in their professional lives. Their thought processes are also accordingly different. They share quite a few skills, however the reason for the application of those skills varies.

So, no, Paramedics aren't like nurses on the road. They're very much a different type of care provider. Nurses aren't like Paramedics in the hospital either, and they'd have a difficult time adapting to the speed of things that happen on the street.

They are two different types of providers that are used in two different areas of care. Apples and Oranges.
 
When will people stop with these? First it was ambulances are the same as the er and now medics are rn's... some people wonder why we make 11$ an hour. Not a personal shot at drose but your friend needs some help
 
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I'll try to keep it simple. Are you new to the health care field? I would suggest maybe shadowing a RN for the day (Which most hospitals allow) to get a better understanding of what they actually do. RNs/Medics tend to have very little understanding of each others field . I would also point out that floor/ICU/ER nursing are all very different fields in themselves. Most EMS personal only have experience interacting with ER RNs.
 
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I'll try to keep it simple. Are you new to the health care field? I would suggest maybe shadowing a RN for the day (Which most hospitals allow) to get a better understanding of what they actually do. RNs/Medics tend to have very little understanding of each others field . I would also point out that floor/ICU/ER nursing are all very different fields in themselves. Most EMS personal only have experience interacting with ER RNs.
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Sorry for disappointing you haha, and yeah I am very new to the health care field.
 
drose said:
Sorry for disappointing you haha, and yeah I am very new to the health care field.
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We have all been there and when you first start out the various health care professions can be confusing. Just don't let that guy tell you he is the same as a doctor in the back of an ambulance:beerchug: Also, you will see that they RN vs Medic debate can get pretty intense on this forum.
 
Chase said:
We have all been there and when you first start out the various health care professions can be confusing. Just don't let that guy tell you he is the same as a doctor in the back of an ambulance:beerchug: Also, you will see that they RN vs Medic debate can get pretty intense on this forum.
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Alright thanks, and wow just realized from your reply, do you have a BSN degree?
 
drose said:
Alright thanks, and wow just realized from your reply, do you have a BSN degree?
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Just graduated today actually :D
 
No!!! Paramedics are much better than an RN, they are closer to being a doctor.
 
I'll be the dissenting voice and suggest that paramedics and RNs actually both have a lot in common. Both are non-physician providers with relatively short educational programs performing acts delegated by a physician.

Sure, each profession brings its own perspective to a given situation, and some nursing roles veer far away from a typical paramedic's work - but tell me there's not some similarity between a paramedic and an ICU or ER nurse. In plenty of European countries EMS is a subspecialty of nursing. It sounds like, in some states, RN's are doing a lot of the flight work.
 
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Both are non-physician providers with relatively short educational programs performing acts delegated by a physician.
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Say what? :blink:
 
Nurses can fill a wide variety of jobs in a wide variety of settings. Paramedics get a pale translucent complexion from being stuck (shackled) in the back of modular ambulances all day long.:lol:
 
systemet said:
I'll be the dissenting voice and suggest that paramedics and RNs actually both have a lot in common. Both are non-physician providers with relatively short educational programs performing acts delegated by a physician.
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Paramedics are way more trained/educated than nurses. :ph34r:
 
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Say what? :blink:
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Paramedic: 2-3 years if you include EMT.
RN: 3-4 years
M.D. (FM) : 8-10 years.
M.D. (EM) : 10 - 12 years
M.D. ( random obscure specialty + dual boarded + journeyman plumber) 57.6 years.

And so forth...

Obviously educational time varies with location, but as much as both would probably like to deny it, they're closer to one another than either is to being a physician.

edit :Also, while I now feel like a bit of a douche, congratulations!
 
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M.D. (FM) : 8-10 years.
M.D. (EM) : 10 - 12 years
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Family medicine: 3 year residency.
Emergency medicine 3-4 years depending on the program (heard more than once it being described as a 3.5 year residency and, alternatively, the 4th year being the "$200,000 mistake").
 
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