wtferick
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You would have to be full-time at care for 6 months.
When does Los Angeles county bids renew???
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Meanwhile in Kern County, none of us worry about losing EOAs and layoffs.
VentMonkey
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, humility goes a long way at times
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VentMonkey
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Hey, I got mad love for my AMR peeps. I am a defector, I can't hate on it. It like here, or anywhere has it's ups, downs, and all arounds. No judgment on my endThe Kern County Cult strikes again!
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I've been on the EOA layoff train before. Part of why I left that system.Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, humility goes a long way at times
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Oh I've got nothing against the crews. We're all on the same team. For me it's the county LEMSA and the ambulance management for bowing down to the fire authority.Hey, I got mad love for my AMR peeps. I am a defector, I can't hate on it. It like here, or anywhere has it's ups, downs, and all arounds. No judgment on my end
VentMonkey
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Ah yes, but you see young padawon, it isn't something that can't ever happen to anyone anywhere. We're no more immune than the next county over, just ask admin
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wtferick
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Always amusing to see how these things play out. Those left without jobs are the ones who are salty about the new company coming in. Just things that I have seen
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In all seriousness though. If I wanted to stay in CA and private EMS for the rest of my life I'd be down for the Kern County Cult. I just think its funny how Hall employees come out of the woodwork on any So CAL EMS forum. It's like y'all have a 6th sense or something lol.
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LOL! join the borg! I know a few of the Hall people. Just like I know a few of my masonic brothern on here. Eyes and ears every where lol
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I will say having given half a decade of my career's worth to AMR, Hall is literally night and day. So much different in so many ways, and I think the other Hall folks on here have been in similar situations as myself, and the guys on here in other Cali systems. We're just tryin' to share the love is all. Plus, like anywhere, we always need good people up here.
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Yes. We may seem to sneak our way into every SoCal thread, but it's just to remind everyone there are options that don't completely suck, and that offer career and longevity options.
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Well the reputation of Hall certainly proceeds the company. Virtually known throughout the state as the best company in CA with the best protocols in CA.
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"The Borg" is AMR, lol. Have you ever known of a company who's owner is always up for meet, and greets with his people?
Or makes his administrators, and supervisors sit in on bi-weekly meetings with him directly so that he can see that his company, and it's employees are as happy as can reasonably be? Up until 2009, I hadn't.
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This I will dispute. When I first moved here they were very archaic, and outdated. They've definitely changed for the better, and are mirroring some of the other "better California EMS protocols", but I guess one can also argue that this is subjective.
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Pretty much for the question, when the new bids are awarded, possibly up to June 30th of 2017... unless if they decide to extend it again.. If you go to the DHS website, go under EMS commission, click on agenda and minutes. Go to 2016 for the month of July. I forgot what page but to summarize, awards will be extended for 6months up to a year. Not sure if this also includes appeals and what not.
Oh true true forgot about that
wtferick
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Don't listen to the folks that say care does not work with your schedule. They do
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Yeah, and the redrawn EOA zones put Paramount in McCormick's zone, hence Care is "losing" Paramount, and we're "gaining" it.
Anyways semantics aside, I found this: http://file.lacounty.gov/SDSInter/dhs/239512_01_RequestForProposalsNo.EOA2015.pdf
It LOOKS like the Draft version of the proposal the various ambulance companies had to fill out to bid on each EOA. It's all blank (i.e. not the actual proposals) but the part I find useful starts on page 180 of the pdf, it shows the redrawn EOAs for the 2016 proposal. (TBH since this is technically a draft document, it is entirely possible that the actual redrawn EOAs used are different....but so far it appears consistent with what everyone else has been saying).
So from what I'm hearing....sounds like AMR got Zone 1 (Santa Clarita, Lancaster, Palmdale and the rest of the desert areas north of the mountains)
Does Schaefer keep EOA 2, City of Monrovia? Or did Care grab that as well?
EOA 3, Schaefer's old zone of Pomona and northern half of the San Gabriel Valley is now Care it sounds like?
EOA 4, AMR's current zone in the southern half of the SGV is now also Care?
EOA 5, Care's current zone (just minus Paramount) remains untouched
EOAs 6, 7, 8, and 9 are all McCormick
EOA 6 is City of Compton....we're still waiting to hear how this is going to work. We know they are shutting down their Ambulance Operator program, but they use 2 AO ambulances with 3 ALS ambulances (called Squads over the radio, but actually transport ALS patients themselves unlike LACo Squads....) So the question is are we only going to respond to BLS level calls, respond to all calls and if it's ALS, their Squad will transport and we'll clear, or will they start using their Squads like LACo and we'll transport everything with their medics in our rig for ALS? (I have one time been on a call in County's area that had a Compton FD squad respond in place of a County Squad...it was an ALS transport and they did that last option, we put the patient in our rig and their medic transported with us instead of them just taking the patient straight up). There's also a persistant rumor that LACoFD may take over Compton FD but I haven't heard/seen anything official on that, just rumor mill....however City of Hermosa Beach is in serious talks to have their FD taken over by LACoFD https://www.facebook.com/Hermosa-Be...58142654218635/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE&fref=nf http://hermosabch.org/modules/showdocument.aspx?documentid=8206
EOA 7 is McCormicks current Carson area including Palos Verdes penninsula, Willowbrook, South Gate and Lynwood that now has Paramount added.
EOA 8 is City of Redondo Beach, which McCormick is currently transporting for, however, as I said earlier, they plan on setting up their own AO program and doing transports in house http://www.dailybreeze.com/governme...ormick-ambulance-will-set-up-in-house-service Though it seems likely to me personally McCormick would remain the transport provider since we are already doing first in ALS for them when they are unable to staff their own ALS ambulance. (as well as being surrounded by our zones), possibly similar to how La Habra has a direct contract for transport with Care so they're in house with LACo there? Hermosa Beach would be a neat station to be in house at...
EOA 9 is McCormicks current area in Hawthorne, Inglewood (and surrounding areas), Ladera Heights, West Hollywood and Universal City and Malibu, Agoura Hills and Calabasas, which looks rather unchanged to me.
So....bottome line looks like Care pushed AMR and Schaefer out of East County entirely, McCormick is virtually unchanged, and AMR is left only SCV and the deserts.