the 100% directionless thread

[Anjel]

Blah...this is ruining this thread for me.

I GOT THANKSGIVING OFF WORK! Yay!

 

[usalsfyre]

Feel very lucky. Last year was the first time I haven't worked Thanksgiving, Christmas Eve or Christmas Day ever

 

[fast65]

Eh, I'm actually kind of glad to be working Thanksgiving, it gives me something else to :censored::censored::censored::censored::censored: about

 

[Aprz]

Blah...this is ruining this thread for me.

I GOT THANKSGIVING OFF WORK! Yay!

Heh, I'm happy to be working a 12 hour on thanksgiving, lol. I guess I just don't like spending time with my family during the holidays, and they are paying me holiday pay to do it! How could I resist?

 

[fast65]

Heh, I'm happy to be working a 12 hour on thanksgiving, lol. I guess I just don't like spending time with my family during the holidays, and they are paying me holiday pay to do it! How could I resist?

Ok, I don't feel as odd now for not liking to spend time with my family either

 

[silver]

No, with a provisio. The basic economic system works, mostly. The issue is the current focus on short term gain over long-term stability. Very, VERY selective regulation might be needed to refocus that.

I throw the question back to you. What have you got that's better?

Me? I agree, and I also think that there are some "advantages" given to large entities/those with power over individuals which makes it almost impossible to start (emphasis on start) at an equal footing.

I actually write letters to congress and sign petitions that interest me. I may or may not have participated in a protest before :unsure: but it was not OWS. I try to reframe from purchasing from large corporations when possible (which right now doesn't get you very far, but baby steps). Also I have completed academic studies in the field of "justice," although my studies are focused on healthcare access and bioethics, economics plays a large role. Lastly, I am have been involved at the micro level with advocacy and volunteering among local non-profits focusing on ridding of poverty and homelessness.

I try, though don't know whether it is effective or is "right."

 

[JPINFV]

How is it irrelevant? Our tax dollars fund the police department. The money they are using to deal with these people could very well be used somewhere else for a better reason, but it can't be because it's tied up "babysitting grown babies" as Linuss said.

So let's suspend the parts of the Constitution that aren't fiscally prudent. Jury trials are expensive, so let's do away with those if, on first glance, the suspect is obviously guilty. How much money was wasted on the Dr. Murray/Jackson trial?

Peacefully is the key word in your statement above when talking about our right to assembly. True, most are peaceful but it is creating an environment conducive to violence. That's why the police are stepping up their response and use of force. Preventative vs. Reactive.

I don't see your argument here, sorry.

Bars create an environment conducive to violence. Lets shut them down to. Merely creating an environment isn't enough to take action in many cases. Otherwise cars would be governed to the maximum speed limit in the state they are licensed in.

 

[silver]

Bars create an environment conducive to violence. Lets shut them down to. Merely creating an environment isn't enough to take action in many cases. Otherwise cars would be governed to the maximum speed limit in the state they are licensed in.

Jails and prisons ironically are one of the environments most conducive to violence. We should get rid of them as well.

 

[JPINFV]

Jails and prisons ironically are one of the environments most conducive to violence. We should get rid of them as well.

 

[bigbaldguy]

Tofurky countdown begins.....

 

[Handsome Robb]

So let's suspend the parts of the Constitution that aren't fiscally prudent. Jury trials are expensive, so let's do away with those if, on first glance, the suspect is obviously guilty. How much money was wasted on the Dr. Murray/Jackson trial?

Quite a bit I'm sure. Your twisting statements and putting words in my mouth. I'm not going to run around in circles and dance with you, sorry.

Bars create an environment conducive to violence. Lets shut them down to. Merely creating an environment isn't enough to take action in many cases. Otherwise cars would be governed to the maximum speed limit in the state they are licensed in.

Now your advocating interfering with businesses...how much sense does that make? Apples to Oranges and where the hell did governing cars come into the equation?

Your right it doesn't require action just because of the presence of said environment, but when these "peaceful protestors" become agitated, aggressive, violent or disregard a lawful order from a LEO action must be taken. Hence why cops come and arrest/detain individuals involved in bar fights.

 

[Aprz]

Occupy EMTLife!

 

[fast65]

Occupy EMTLife!

On board h34r:

 

[Handsome Robb]

Occupy EMTLife!

Has 3 members.

Not sure why we are occupying but the 1% isn't fair to the 99% !!!!!! h34r:

 

[usafmedic45]

Where have I said that I'm in agreement with the specifics of the OWS movement?

That's why I asked and posited the matter. I wasn't sure.

 

[fast65]

Has 3 members.

Not sure why we are occupying but the 1% isn't fair to the 99% !!!!!! h34r:

For increased educational standards...helllloooo

I'm actually just here because Andrew said there would be balloons...

 

[Aprz]

Has 3 members.

Not sure why we are occupying but the 1% isn't fair to the 99% !!!!!! h34r:

I want the directionless thread to have a direction.

 

[silver]

Has 3 members.

Not sure why we are occupying but the 1% isn't fair to the 99% !!!!!! h34r:

LOL that kinda reminds me. They should institute a reputation system so we could have an economy of sorts. That would be fun hah.

 

[JPINFV]

Quite a bit I'm sure. Your twisting statements and putting words in my mouth. I'm not going to run around in circles and dance with you, sorry.

I'm not the one arguing about doing away with protests because they cost the police department too much money.

Now your advocating interfering with businesses...how much sense does that make? Apples to Oranges and where the hell did governing cars come into the equation?

I'm not the one arguing with shutting down environments that create an increased probability of violence.

Running a successful business isn't a right. Furthermore, the government does plenty to interfere with businesses, including regulations that decrease the possibility of violence (e.g. making it illegal to serve alcohol to drunk customers). The difference is that getting a drink or making money isn't a constitutional right. The right to assemble and petition for redress, however, is.

Your right it doesn't require action just because of the presence of said environment, but when these "peaceful protestors" become agitated, aggressive, violent or disregard a lawful order from a LEO action must be taken. Hence why cops come and arrest/detain individuals involved in bar fights.

Never said that action couldn't be taken. However the police do not have carte blanche to do as they please, especially against people who are not being aggressive, violent, or really even agitated (agitation doesn't warrant increased use of force anyways). Walking down a line of people sitting on the ground and spraying them with pepper spray is, at best, right on the line for what should be considered appropriate force, and most likely what most citizens would be considered excessive. Governments of free people are based on the consent of the people. If the people consider it excess force, than it is excess force.

 

[JPINFV]

I want the directionless thread to have a direction.

Directionless thread, directionless before OWS made directionless cool.