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Law Enforcement / Medic

Discussion in 'Military/Tactical/Wilderness EMS' started by Drwlemt, Nov 19, 2016.

  1. NysEms2117

    NysEms2117 Parole officer/EMT

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    If im not mistaken, and i very well may be, because buffalo is quite a ways from me. The NYS NAT'L guard, is trying to branch to help with civilian stuff(flights ect). I also think that "Sector Buffalo" of the USCG, is taking medical/LE flights for that region now, I know Maritime Enforcement guys, usually fly with the Rescue Divers/swimmer/medic to supply the "firepower".
     
  2. EMDispatch

    EMDispatch IAED EMD-Q/EMT

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    Makes sense I've been out of the Erie, PA area for over 5 years now. A lot of the BORSTAR mission doesn't really mesh with the northern border, at least not the northeast.
     
  3. CANMAN

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    MSP ain't all it is cracked up to be, got the teeshirt and I am glad I switched to private HEMS for many reasons. About 3 years after I quit they put one into the ground and my buddy who was a Trooper Medic got killed, along with 2 other crew and a patient. What they did after the crash made me realize I made the right choice by leaving and going civilian HEMS. You really have to assess what you want to do, because very few places do both LE and EMS work well. The MSP medics are MD Paramedics with RSI, that is all. Now with almost every jurisdiction in MD having paid ALS the work is often done when they get there and they are a transport vehicle. In my opinion they are over utilized and do not provide a higher level of care then the regular EMS units, meanwhile higher level of care private HEMS aircraft are often closer and not utilized due to the monopoly MSP has on scene missions. They do some LE work, and even fewer hoist missions. Some of the guys moonlight as STATE team medics as well (MSP's swat team).

    As far as BORDSTAR goes, I believe you have to be bilingual to work for them because I looked into it at one time. I may be wrong about that.

    I would decide what you're interested in MORE, Law enforcement, or medicine, and then let me know and I could give you some potentially better options.
     
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  4. VentMonkey

    VentMonkey Crackpot Premium Member

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    This is the impression I had from what I have seen only, no first hand experience; and sorry to hear about your buddy.
    On the southern end of the country this is in fact true, and goes for all of their border patrol agents in this sector. In fact, last I checked they actually had a written test of sorts they put you through.
     
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  5. CALEMT

    CALEMT The Other Guy

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    No you're right. If you're a native Spanish speaker you take a test to prove that you are. If you're not then you'll take classes during the academy(?) training(?) for field agent.
     
  6. NysEms2117

    NysEms2117 Parole officer/EMT

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    I just found this extremely funny and found the meme
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    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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  7. MPTOP

    MPTOP Forum Ride Along

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    I know this was posted several months ago, but just saw it. Davis County Sheriff's Office in Utah, just north of Salt Lake City, runs Paramedic Deputies. All deputies, with the exception of the civil and jail division, are Paramedics. They respond to law enforcement calls in the unincorporated county areas, and run ALS response with the various city ambulances throughout the county. Last I heard they are hurting big time for people. If you're already paramedic certified, they will put you through the Academy. Something to consider
     
  8. NysEms2117

    NysEms2117 Parole officer/EMT

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    Do they wear both hats at the same time? Or do they do LEO work for 1/2 the shift, and get rid of their firearms/tasers/batons/handcuffs/OC spray and become medics for the other half?
     
  9. VentMonkey

    VentMonkey Crackpot Premium Member

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    NysEms2117 Parole officer/EMT

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  11. SAREMT

    SAREMT Forum Probie

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    California Highway Patrol utilizes paramedic/LEO's on some of their helicopters as flight officers. I know a guy who was a paramedic flight officer for many years. He saw ALOT of good trauma at the off road vehicle parks, and they worked with us alot on rescues in the backcountry. They will also allow you to work a part time EMS job. I know of another chippy/flight medic who does that.
     
  12. Agg04

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    being a swat medic is a dream of mine. to be realistic, I know its rare though. Good luck man! Hope you find something.
     
  13. chrls

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    I do exactly this. All but one of our 8 air units across the state are what we call "Regional Programs" where we do the normal airborne law enforcement stuff as well as SAR/Medevac. Our one unit that doesn't do the SAR/medevac is in the Los Angeles area and are referred to as a Metro Program.

    Anybody who works on our helicopters/airplanes as either a pilot or flight officer is a police officer with us first and remains one while working in an air unit. While we are all still police officers the nature of our job removes us from the day to day of responding to calls, writing tickets, arresting people, most report writing, and the like so it depends on what you want out of your job.

    I also work part time as a medic for my local 911 service.

    It's a good job as long as you can get through our hiring process, academy, and a few years as a road officer before being able to apply for a spot flying.

    If anybody has questions about what we do feel free to message me/reply here if it's related.
     
  14. CALEMT

    CALEMT The Other Guy

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    Dont do it, he can be VERY convincing...
     
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  15. jeffro1904

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    randomly came across the thread...

    I'm a BP K9/EMT so I could shed light on all the border patrol talk.

    If you are interested in BORSTAR you need to complete your probationary period first. Basically that means you will pass the academy and push traffic at your assigned station first. I believe it changed from 2 years to just 1 year but don't quote me as that changed since I got in. Then you will have to wait for the BORSTAR "academy" to open up, which is typically once a year, and TRY OUT. Good luck! I hope you are part fish because they hit the pool, ocean and "fast water" hard.

    BORSTAR is getting more and more EMT-P level agents and they have at least one agent with BORTAC for their ops. If you want to lean toward the tactical side, I'd suggest BORTAC with previously established medical background. Either team will maintain your EMS cert. BORSTAR works more routine field traffic and can be supplemental aircrew members that are dropped at the scene of rural med/trauma event. They also have multi purpose, human remain detection (HRD) K9 teams.

    If anyone has anymore questions, not wall/ Trumpty dump related, I'll do my best to answer.
     
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  16. NysEms2117

    NysEms2117 Parole officer/EMT

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    @jeffro1904 Since your already inside "federal agent land", hopefully you can answer this better then i can since im only state atm. How would previous experiences in other federal agencies laterally transfer- IE DEA FAST team, FBI HRT, US marshals FGTF, all of which have members that are medically trained. **I am not nor have i ever been on any of the aforementioned teams** However, I am with NYS "specialty teams".
     

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