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What are you talking about? the city fire units were on a call already, so of course mutual aid was requested. it's no different than all of your EMS units being tied up on medical calls. if another medical call comes in, guess what, you need to get a mutual aid unit to handle it.It reminded me of a call where a city sent all their units to a structure fire and about 6 minutes into the call, an elderly female had a stroke on the other side of town. BC had dispatch call another department (5mi away) to provide mutual aid for the medical and the delay between all the phone calls added time to.
Certainly can happen, but usually not all ems personnel are directed towards one call that takes all resources like a structure fire, gas leak or technical rescue. Since a majority of calls are EMS in nature, it's easier to adjust staffing based on volume/time of calls and hopefully avoid that. I just don't see why someone would not want Fire and EMS separate other than it might reduce your salary/hours/workload.What are you talking about? the city fire units were on a call already, so of course mutual aid was requested. it's no different than all of your EMS units being tied up on medical calls. if another medical call comes in, guess what, you need to get a mutual aid unit to handle it.
focus on real issues, not made up complaints.
Couple things I don't like about fire and ems together is when there is a major call such as a technical rescue, structure fire or gas leak, you have all your engine companies going there and they are also the ems providers. So when medical calls come out during that event, the patient has to suffer and your mutual aid department is down a unit running a medical in your district.
I'm guessing 0 times? In most places, once you are assigned a run, that's your run until you clear, unless you have a dispatcher who is on his or her game and has the authority to redirect you to a higher priority call before you make it on scene. So if you are dispatched to a structure fire, the chances of you being diverted to a medical aid are slim to none.but you know how many times I've been diverted to a medical aid when responding to a fire?
I'm guessing 0 times?
wow, thats.... wow.... So I guess you guys aren't a fire department, but an EMS department that goes to fires?Actually your guess is incorrect. More often than not I’ll get diverted. Medical aids trump everything else.
wow, thats.... wow.... So I guess you guys aren't a fire department, but an EMS department that goes to fires?
Or is your EMS system so shortstaffed and underfunded, that without the FD to "stop the clock" people would be dying left and right due to the extended ETA of the ambulance to the scene?
I'm pretty sure if we got dispatched to a structure fire with people trapped in our first due, and we were diverted enroute to a medical assist, my captain and chief would not be happy.... and the public would then ask why a FIRE truck was diverted to a non-FIRE call when a FIRE was burning with peopled trapped.
source?blah blah blah blah. Seriously.
Here are some facts:2) ALS fire response has not shown to save any lives, but it's super expensive. and it helps justify FD staffing. But if you ask most FFs, they would give up their paramedics certs and stop going on EMS calls tomorrow if they could.
ok....3) the busy cities that see a lot of fire still send their companies on more EMS calls than fires (there are a few exceptions to this, but they are by far the minority
under staffed or overused?4) FD wouldn't need to go to so many EMS calls if EMS has enough units to cover the call volume. but it's cheaper to bandaid an understaffed EMS system