Gays in EMS

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I think mcdonl makes a good point. "Openly Gay" (a term I understand to refer to homosexual men) often seems to mean the kind of gay who tries to behave like a very, very silly teenage girl. You know the type... over swinging hips, extremely tight clothes, girl's revealing blouse, hair twisty around finger behavior, and the loose neck syndrome (lol!). This kind of person, be s/he a teenage girl or a gay always gives the strong impression of being immature and incompetent. Not someone I would instantly trust to give me healthcare treatment.

Toughening up, something I imagine EMT's do a LOT, is something that is commonly portrayed as masculine. The tough soldier with a gruff voice, stoic and strong, etc. It seems to me, and I could be very wrong, that many of the female EMT's, medics, etc, adopt this type of attitude / behavior when on duty. Again, I could be wrong. Toughening up does indeed tend to bring to mind (and you see this in history) the man of steel, gruffness, and somewhat flatline emotional level; not much emotional reaction to horrible sights and experiences. Police Officers, men AND women, do this, too. This is why so many police officers become so detached from emotional pain or experience break downs later in life after a long hard career. It's hard!

I have absolutely no problem with gay or lesbian personnel, but when they behave as is their orientation is more important than how the public views the "professionallity" of the emergency response personnel, it's simply inappropriate. To me, it would be no different than if a female muslim EMT wanted to wear a burka on duty. That is a VERY extreme example, though. :D

Bottom line for me is if what the gay/lesbian EMT's are doing does not interfere with the professional image and performance of the emergency response service, I have no problem with it.

Personally, I don't like people being gays/lesbion. It's not that I don't like the people or would ever refuse to work with them (unless they were making repeated advances towards ME at which point I would simply file a complaint), it's just that I don't think being gay or lesbian is something people should be. It's purely a moral issue for me, and I would never bring it up to a gay person I worked with. I'm not judging gay's souls by any means and I don't condemn them to Hell, either... no matter their beliefs, they're people like me. I would never refuse to shake one's hand or work with one. The ones who behave maturely, i.e. don't rub it in everyone's face, and take their job seriously deserve just as much respect as anyone.

Just to clarify the first paragraph, I am certainly not saying that all gays are like the one depicted in the first paragraph. That is just one type of person I have seen quite often around here. I understand that there are others who work hard and behave very well. No offense intended, and I don't intend to state my opinion or beliefs in a manner that would indicate all others as false.

Regards!
 
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I know, thats why I made the point that:

the point seems to be that the day to day duties in EMS can be carried out by people of any sexual orientation, provided that if they are gay, that this is not reflected in any outward manner...
 
the point seems to be that the day to day duties in EMS can be carried out by people of any sexual orientation, provided that if they are gay, that this is not reflected in any outward manner...

Not true, I was referring to the fire service. And yeah, I will stand by everything I have said.
 
Just to clarify the first paragraph, I am certainly not saying that all gays are like the one depicted in the first paragraph. That is just one type of person I have seen quite often around here. I understand that there are others who work hard and behave very well. No offense intended, and I don't intend to state my opinion or beliefs in a manner that would indicate all others as false.

Regards!

In my experience, the type of openly gay person that seems to be a common misconception, is definitely in the minority!:D
 
Yes, the fire service is certainly a different story.

I have to again go back to the term openly gay.

The fire service requires a certain amount of "toughness" - This can just as easily be exhibited by men and women of any sexual orientation... but if your openly gay in such as way that you portray yourself as a little soft it may be hard for your fellow FD members to have confidence in your physical and mental strength....

This guy....

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He may be a terrific firefighter, but I have a hard time thinking he will be composed and physically able to haul my 230 pound *** out of a fire.

Then again... I am a good 'ole boy....

Is that Ms. J from ANTM?

...Wait, is it bad i recognize him immediately? XD
 
In my experience, the type of openly gay person that seems to be a common misconception, is definitely in the minority!:D

And that minority is what mcdonl is talking about.

That pic is ms j on americas next top model. No way in hell id trust him to haul my *** out of a fire...just based on How he acts. He could be straight and act that way and I still wouldnt trust him.
 
And that minority is what mcdonl is talking about.

That pic is ms j on americas next top model. No way in hell id trust him to haul my *** out of a fire...just based on How he acts. He could be straight and act that way and I still wouldnt trust him.

I have teenage daughters.... But yeah, because of the way he acts you would never trust him in a fire scene... So when people say openly, and outwardly gay I just want to point out that it makes a difference.
 
No, I am saying he looks and acts like a sissy. There I said it. Yeah, making judgments on his toughness all day long.
...actually I think the problem is the collar.

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In my experience, the type of openly gay person that seems to be a common misconception, is definitely in the minority!:D

The problem is that they tend to be a very vocal minority. Example? Gay pride parades.
 
Glad to see that the conservative/Christian opinions haven't been voiced here. I got along best with a lesbian in my company who was married to her partner and they have a kid. She was smart, nice and awesome.
 
Glad to see that the conservative/Christian opinions haven't been voiced here.


...because some of us conservatives think that both the government shouldn't be the moral police and that the moral code I hold myself too isn't something I should hold to other people.
 
^ That is a respectable position.
 
What is openly gay?

If it's a guy, he says: "I like guys."

If it's a gal, she says: "I like gals."

Everything else around that is in your imagination.

Back in the 1980's, in San Francisco, there were some private ambulance companies. One of them was "openly" gay. I haven't been able to find the study on the level of service comparisons, probably because there wasn't one, probably because no one cared then, and hopefully, no one cares now.
 
The problem is that they tend to be a very vocal minority. Example? Gay pride parades.

What's the difference between that and a Firefighter's funeral, or a Cop's for that matter? Talk about over-the-top!
 
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What's the difference between that and a Firefighter's funeral, or a Cop's for that matter? Talk about over-the-top!

Because people would be in an uproar if we had a "Straight Pride Parade" or a "White Pride Parade". Don't b*** and moan that you're treated differently when you make it your mission to stand out.



Glad to see that the conservative/Christian opinions haven't been voiced here. I got along best with a lesbian in my company who was married to her partner and they have a kid. She was smart, nice and awesome.

I'm conservative and I disagree with the homosexual lifestyle, however someones orientation usually has little impact on their ability to do a job.


My station captain is gay. He says gay stuff all the time. However I have no doubt that he's a competent medic.
 
Just curious- what about the homosexual "lifestyle" do you disagree with? What is it that they do that you specifically disagree with? I honestly am curious and mean no malice in this question.
 
Homosexuality is no more a life style than heterosexuality.

Do you pick and choose who you fall in love with? Neither do homosexuals.

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Homosexuality is no more a life style than heterosexuality.

Do you pick and choose who you fall in love with? Neither do homosexuals.

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You can choose to act on it. It's a sucky situation, but it's still a choice. Otherwise age of consent should be age of sexual maturity.
 
No more choice than heterosexuality.

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