Ok, not to start a likely controversial subject again. however I got to thinking after having looked at the kit the other day, and recent discussions here.
A place where I work on occasion has a BLS kit that was put together by another person who works there such as me, that is an RN.
The kit is in a tactical medical pack, and is "supposed" to be the same equipment or kit as the dispatched fire trucks would have. The kit has several smaller bags broken into "broke bone", "gun shot wound", "wound care/epi pen" Theres some basic tools, an Ambu-bag, etc.
What got me was the fact there is in fact an Epi Pen in the bag which says there is.
I KNOW EPI is an Rx only to be administered by an MD, etc, etc...
I know that people who may have severe allergic reactions are prescribed Epi-Pens in case of severe reaction, and relevant family members are trained in when and how to use them.
However I also know that the only person that works there likely to know how to use the EPI is the RN who put the kit together, who is there possibly 10% of the time, perhaps a bit closer to 25% of the time. The next 2 people in medical training would be me, and one other who are your typical Basic Aid/Lay Rescue trained... neither of which are trained, nor qualified to administer the EPI.
So, is it logical to say the RN put the EPI in there, in case he's around, he can administer it? Seems silly given he's there considerably less than any other person (including me, and I'm not there very often), he put it there for EMS? Redundant since they should have their own, and then some... He put it there for the person having the reaction who knows when and how to use it, but then shouldn't they already have their own?
Can anyone see any reasoning on why he would have supplied the kit with this medication? There is always a possibility an EMT/RN/or MD is at a class and could administer, but I would say odds are one in every 4-10 classes has someone trained in it's use.
Does it seem logical to anyone that an EPI pen is a good choice in the kit, or just a bit over the top? EMS response to the location is around 15-30minutes, with likely the first responder arriving in their POV, does the response time and likely hood of the first responder showing up without supplies warrant this? or just a bit overkill?
Opinions, anyone? I'm thinking it's in ways a useless item since no one at the facility on a regular basis could administer this in any sense (not to mention may not even know what it's for)
A place where I work on occasion has a BLS kit that was put together by another person who works there such as me, that is an RN.
The kit is in a tactical medical pack, and is "supposed" to be the same equipment or kit as the dispatched fire trucks would have. The kit has several smaller bags broken into "broke bone", "gun shot wound", "wound care/epi pen" Theres some basic tools, an Ambu-bag, etc.
What got me was the fact there is in fact an Epi Pen in the bag which says there is.
I KNOW EPI is an Rx only to be administered by an MD, etc, etc...
I know that people who may have severe allergic reactions are prescribed Epi-Pens in case of severe reaction, and relevant family members are trained in when and how to use them.
However I also know that the only person that works there likely to know how to use the EPI is the RN who put the kit together, who is there possibly 10% of the time, perhaps a bit closer to 25% of the time. The next 2 people in medical training would be me, and one other who are your typical Basic Aid/Lay Rescue trained... neither of which are trained, nor qualified to administer the EPI.
So, is it logical to say the RN put the EPI in there, in case he's around, he can administer it? Seems silly given he's there considerably less than any other person (including me, and I'm not there very often), he put it there for EMS? Redundant since they should have their own, and then some... He put it there for the person having the reaction who knows when and how to use it, but then shouldn't they already have their own?
Can anyone see any reasoning on why he would have supplied the kit with this medication? There is always a possibility an EMT/RN/or MD is at a class and could administer, but I would say odds are one in every 4-10 classes has someone trained in it's use.
Does it seem logical to anyone that an EPI pen is a good choice in the kit, or just a bit over the top? EMS response to the location is around 15-30minutes, with likely the first responder arriving in their POV, does the response time and likely hood of the first responder showing up without supplies warrant this? or just a bit overkill?
Opinions, anyone? I'm thinking it's in ways a useless item since no one at the facility on a regular basis could administer this in any sense (not to mention may not even know what it's for)