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1. Is the gurney a hard enough surface to perform CPR?

2. When transporting code 3 which entrance to the hospital do you use? the emergency entrance or ambulance entrance?
 
1. Is the gurney a hard enough surface to perform CPR?

2. When transporting code 3 which entrance to the hospital do you use? the emergency entrance or ambulance entrance?

1. Yes. A backboard underneath is even better.

2. You always just pull up to the ambulance bay if they have one. I'm pretty sure all hospitals do.
 
2. When transporting code 3 which entrance to the hospital do you use? the emergency entrance or ambulance entrance?

Are you serious? Who the hell failed to train you or did they simply issue you your card after your check cleared?
 
Are you serious? Who the hell failed to train you or did they simply issue you your card after your check cleared?

lol that's not nice. Funny. But not nice.

But yea I kinda wondered the same thing.
 
Yea, the gurney will work. Having them on a LSB is better for movement to and from the gurney and/or the hospital bed.

Yes you use the Amb Entrance. :unsure: Do you have a system that operates differently? In my area, every pt, code green, yellow and red all go through the Anb entrance. If triaged out at the ER, they get wheeled out through the waiting room doors and left there. But we never enter the hospital through the main entrance.
 
Are you serious? Who the hell failed to train you or did they simply issue you your card after your check cleared?

woah calm down man.. I just recently got hired. Starting my orientation next week. I was in the hospital recently and saw two entrance signs. Just an honest question before I get involved

Thanks for your response Anjel
 
No need to calm down. I'm not upset. I'm just stunned by how clueless you've painted yourself to be. I don't get upset easily but I also don't hesitate to be blunt. It's something of a rarity unfortunately because if we stopped coddling marginal students and providers then we probably would have far fewer problems in this trade than we currently face.

Back to your original question: Riddle me this Batman, but during your clinicals did you ever push the cot with an unstable patient heading for the ED through anything but the ambulance entrance?
 
No need to calm down. I'm not upset. I'm just stunned by how clueless you've painted yourself to be. I don't get upset easily but I also don't hesitate to be blunt. It's something of a rarity unfortunately because if we stopped coddling marginal students and providers then we probably would have far fewer problems in this trade than we currently face.

Back to your original question: Riddle me this Batman, but during your clinicals did you ever push the cot with an unstable patient heading for the ED through anything but the ambulance entrance?

There's the problem I did not have clinicals included in my accelerated program.. only one shift of ride along
 
There's the problem I did not have clinicals included in my accelerated program.. only one shift of ride along
Like I said....who the hell gave you your credentials as soon as the check cleared?
 
There's the problem I did not have clinicals included in my accelerated program.. only one shift of ride along

Oh wow....really? That just doesn't sound right? How do they expect you to get pt contact? :unsure:
 
Oh wow....really? That just doesn't sound right? How do they expect you to get pt contact? :unsure:

wow. I had to do 60 hours of clinicals for basic. And 120 this semester.

Did they have tests in this program? Skills? I'm assuming you had to pass practicals? so you must know what you are doing in that aspect.

No clinicals. Hmm... That does not sound good.
 
Transporting a code? The transport of non ROSC primary cardiac arrests is a dangerous practice offering little to no benefit in return for disproportinate risk.

Just sayin ....
 
my accelerated program..

And theres the issue. Do yourself and your future patients a favor and do a real school.


Ps, you said you did a ride along, so usafs question still stands. Or was it at a station with no calls?
 
Transporting a code? The transport of non ROSC primary cardiac arrests is a dangerous practice offering little to no benefit in return for disproportinate risk.

Just sayin ....

Point taken, but here "code 3" is just a way of saying "transporting with lights and sirens". In many cases, it does not even imply the patient is definitely unstable.
 
wow. I had to do 60 hours of clinicals for basic. And 120 this semester.

Did they have tests in this program? Skills? I'm assuming you had to pass practicals? so you must know what you are doing in that aspect.

No clinicals. Hmm... That does not sound good.

Yea.....I did 24 hours in the ER, at least 120 on shift with the ambulance. I think we had to have like 20 or 30 pt contacts is what it was....something like that. If you got it done in less time, good for you. If it took more time, (like me) then you put in more time.
 
Point taken, but here "code 3" is just a way of saying "transporting with lights and sirens". In many cases, it does not even imply the patient is definitely unstable.

BUT IF WE DON'T GO CODE 3 WE'RE GOING TO MISS RESCUE ME!

See... there are other, more important things going on!
 
No need to calm down. I'm not upset. I'm just stunned by how clueless you've painted yourself to be. I don't get upset easily but I also don't hesitate to be blunt. It's something of a rarity unfortunately because if we stopped coddling marginal students and providers then we probably would have far fewer problems in this trade than we currently face.

Back to your original question: Riddle me this Batman, but during your clinicals did you ever push the cot with an unstable patient heading for the ED through anything but the ambulance entrance?

No need to be rude and use a batman joke lol. The lad was just asking a simple question. Now instead of being on a medic power trip, address the real issues. One you can not teach common sense. Two. the BLS system in most states is broken. People come out of EMT school with no real knowlege. In NJ where i work, some EMT classes turn out great EMTs rite off the bat. And some turn out ones who need people to hold their hands.

Now he only had one ride along. You cant grasp anything in one ride along. Mabye in a busy system but even then, not likely.
 
This thread has now attracted my attention.

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Play nice.
 
And theres the issue. Do yourself and your future patients a favor and do a real school.

I agree you may be better served by perhaps retaking the course at a more reputable institution.

I would like to point out however, as I stated in another thread, there is considerable education and training in EMS that falls on the shoulders of the employer and requires considerable time to master.

I think this is one of those cases.

It is impossible to turn out knowledgable and proficent providers from a broken system.
 
for my EMT class we only had to do 4 shifts of 12 hours. in other words 48 hours. and nothing was ever mentioned about which entrance to use. its just something that they expect you to pick up or know already. if we were running emergency calls then we would use the ambulance entrance regardless of the what the call was for. for BLS/IFT transports we would use the main entrance to the hospital.
 
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