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It's equipped to do the job they want it to, but not the one you want it to...
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It's equipped to do the job they want it to, but not the one you want it to...
HasTy
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Darn you beat me to it...I have to say it sounds like it is equipped to do just about everything....
AJ Hidell
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Not the one their citizens need it to.
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Based solely on your opinion...
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I just looked at their apparatus photos. We see 4 Federal Signal Q-Style siren grilles, 2 of which appear to be Q2B's mounted on top of the bumper. I've never seen multiple mechanical sirens on a truck - does anyone have any real-life experience with this and how they would be used? (powered together or alternating?).
The flush-mounted grilles on the bumper could VERY likely be the grilles that Federal Signal sells for the Electronic Q siren mounted over "standard" electronic siren speakers. Given that several of their other engines are configured with dual mechanical sirens and dual siren speakers for electronic siren(s), this would make sense, right?
That said - seems like an awful lot of sirens... but it isn't my truck, so I'm sure they had SOME reason for specing the apparatus that way.
That being said - we are an EMS forum, not a Fire forum - let's stick to the large-scale ambulance.
From what Karaya says, they seem to have justified the purchase to themselves, and likely their fundraising base - who are the most important ones, because they'll decide if the company can get another when they need to replace this one!
OK, I had to blink a few times after I saw that website...
The world needs that Rescue/Ambulance like a fat kid needs cake.
Seems a bit extreme...then again so does most of the apparatus.
I'm glad they can justify it, because I sure can't.
Either from a size standpoint or from a multiple siren standpoint.
The world needs that Rescue/Ambulance like a fat kid needs cake.
Seems a bit extreme...then again so does most of the apparatus.
I'm glad they can justify it, because I sure can't.
Either from a size standpoint or from a multiple siren standpoint.
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You must have missed my earlier post that went into some detail as to how that truck was speced out. It functions more than just an ambulance. As far as the multiple mechanical sirens, that is on their Squad truck and not Rescue 40, which is the ambulance we are reviewing here. Rescue 40 has a mechanical siren combined with electronics; not uncommon at all.
I have to admit, I too am scratching my head about the four mechanical sirens on their squad truck and I may call my source up there again and inquire about that.
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Definitely. I wanted to see this thread go out with a bang of mass bannings, not just fizzle out like that.
Gag! I didn't mean to start the next LA riot! I just thought it was a cool rig!:wacko:
No I didn't miss the fact it's multi-duty, that's why I said "rescue/ ambulance"
Something that large is however excessive.
As to the sirens I didn't specify mechanical vs electric. I just said I didn't see the need for more then one.
So in my opinion, they require a single mechanical, or a single electric. Not both. I also don't see the need for the automated bell.
... But in the end, I stand by what I said: I'm glad they can justify it and I am thrilled at the level of community support they enjoy.
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Do you know how much a Q Siren costs?
Why in the world would you need to be so loud? That's almost the most asinine thing I've ever heard of. OMG... Complete waste of $11875.75 (I priced their siren/bell/roto-ray set up). That's what, three AED's? A couple weeks in wages?
Whether they raised the funds on their own, or not, that is a grossly negligent use of funding.
Why in the world would you need to be so loud? That's almost the most asinine thing I've ever heard of. OMG... Complete waste of $11875.75 (I priced their siren/bell/roto-ray set up). That's what, three AED's? A couple weeks in wages?
Whether they raised the funds on their own, or not, that is a grossly negligent use of funding.
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It might be a grossly negligent use of funding but if it was raised on there own and none of the towns folk are questioning it then let them do as they choose personally I think that that set up is better than using the funds to put an engine on a Peterbilt chassis.
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$11875.75.. on sirens.. is not acceptable.. That's just out of this world. Hopefully they don't ask for money too often.
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Is not acceptable to who? You? So what? It's their money and their community that supports them. You behave as if the funds were coming out of your own pocket. I don't think I've seen so many arm chair "experts" as I have in this thread.
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I agree....People here can rant and rave about this all they want, but ultimately, that agency doesn't have to answer to any of us.
The only people they have to answer to is the people they serve...the same people that paid for it.
That rig does what they want it to do...and that's all that's important, regardless of how we feel about it.
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I was just saying it's an outrageous waste of money.
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And all I'm saying is that the people that paid for it don't think so.
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I'm sorry.
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Sorry for what? You're entitled to your opinion just as I'm entitled to mine.
DevilDuckie
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Yeah, but I'm not entitled to it if it makes everyone mad.
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Interesting how insults and name calling are acceptable from some members here without moderation.