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Best degree(s) to get to be paramedic/FF/nurse

Discussion in 'EMS Talk' started by Tk11, May 17, 2017.

  1. Summit

    Summit Critical Crap

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    I received either a blank stare or respect when it became known that I was an EMT. However, I was extraordinarily careful in how I presented the fact. Occasionally I would be the one who got called on particular question types... and I just had to give an answer if I had one or honestly say when I didn't meet their assumptions about my knowledge.

    If you bluster, are cocky, tell tons-of-war stories, or have anything that hints at either a know-it-all attitude or the idea that the paramedic way is superior, you will not be favorably treated. Now, sadly, these attitudes are commonplace in EMS and an educational environment where one feels insecure with the massive amounts of new knowledge to master tends to bring them out even for those not naturally inclined to present themselves in that fashion.

    It is rare to find emnity towards EMS in nursing education as most have had little dealing with EMS and are usually ignorant about what a medic or EMT can do or how they were trained. When you do find it, it usually has a story: they had a cocky know-it-all EMT in their class last semester... or some medic talked down to them at the hospital.

    And you can take that entire post above and swap every EMS/Nursing noun out and it will be just as true the other way around.

    However, if you are in a program that "transitions," then the professors will be very familiar with EMS and will likely have had some students with attitude. Watch your attitude carefully and think about perceptions you create.
     
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  2. Akulahawk

    Akulahawk EMT-P/ED RN Community Leader

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    This is very true in basically any situation.

    What's also very true is that in any program that does do "transitions" from Paramedic or LVN/LPN to RN, the instructors usually will all know who is "transitioning" into the RN program. In my case, I "added" a few points to my applications by listing my Paramedic license, though I didn't truly need to as I had sufficient points already to qualify for entry to the random selection pool.

    Also, like I said earlier, it was quite obvious from very early on that I'd had substantial experience. I was in a traditional program and most 1st Semester nursing students are very nervous about meeting their first patients and I clearly wasn't. Not only that but doing the assessment using our cheat sheets usually takes (at first) about an hour. I was done in less than 15 minutes and I only got faster from there. So... yeah, the instructors will be able to tell if you've got some prior training.
     
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  3. DrParasite

    DrParasite The fire extinguisher is not just for show

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    I wonder what they thought of nurses who were challenging the paramedic exam and MICN programs......
     
  4. akflightmedic

    akflightmedic Forum Deputy Chief

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    Wouldn't know as it would not be common knowledge in Florida. FL in it's infinite wisdom has a rule/law whereby a RN can obtain their EMT-B and then challenge the Paramedic exam. In short, they get to skip school... :)
     
  5. phideux

    phideux Forum Captain

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    I would normally say get your RN first because it is easier to go RN-Medic than it is to go from Medic-RN. But since you are almost done with Medic school, do it the other way. It won't be easy to work and do the school though. Most Fire/EMS jobs work rotating schedules, 24/48, 24/72, 3 on/3 off/3 on/4 off, etc, so you never get the same days off, makes it hard to go to school, unless you do an online thing.
    Is your Medic program a degree program, or a medic course? If it is a degree course some of your Pre-Reqs might transfer over, if not you have to do the full RN course. Here it took a semester off the RN program.
     
  6. phideux

    phideux Forum Captain

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    Here I think if you were an RN with Xyrs of ER experience, you could take the 72hr refresher, take and pass the practicals and take the written test. Don't really know of anyone who did it, or if it is still in effect. Just what I heard years back.
     
  7. Chase

    Chase Flight Nurse

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    I do not really see it as short cut being that they have already been through education that suprecedes much of the paramedic curriculum I.e. college A&P, Micro, Pharm, etc. But I am sure it still thought of the same.
     
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