An MI: My Experience at 30,000 Ft.

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I just returned from a trip out to Arizona, and honestly can't believe this happened. So here goes:

En route to Arizona, about 15 minutes after reaching cruising altitude, the flight attendant comes over the PA and states "Will anyone with medical training please come to the back of the aircraft immediately."

I looked around, and looked around. Not a single person got up.

I got up, went to the back, and saw a man sitting on the floor against the back of the airplane, in the kitchen area. The flight attendant had the AED out, and an amazingly stocked trauma kit.

78 y/o male, C/O Chest Pain:
Onset: 20 minutes ago
Provoke: Can't say
Quality: Heavy feeling, "very painful"
Radiate: Up and down left side
Severity: 8

Pt had no significant or related medical history, and was on no related medications.

At this time a ICU nurse approached and also offered her services. She agreed to push the drugs if required. The plane carried quite a drug box, though I can't say what exactly was in it.

Pt initially presented with the following vitals:
AOX3
BP: 158/90
P: 80
R: 18
Pupils: PERL
Temp: 98.6
Patient sweating

Initially we put him on O2 via the plane's device at 4 LPM (it was 2 or 4), and continued to monitor his vitals. Ten minutes into it I was on the intercom with the pilot relaying vitals. I would give him vitals, he could contact whoever, and I understand they have a contract with the Mayo Clinic for on-line medical control.

Patient then vomited twice while we waited to hear word back. We were ordered to administer 4 MG Nitro tabs x 3 per standard protocol.

The patient then became unresponsive and I lost a pulse. I had a faint carotid pulse. Pt came back to with a sternum rub, and we continued monitoring vitals. Initially (when I first went back there) we were going to continue to Arizona, but then we agreed on Denver. It was then decided that we would do an emergency landing in St. Louis,

During this time the patient became unresponsive several times. For the first time ever I actually grabbed the AED like I was going to use it, but never did.

I was literally sweating bullets.

Pt was turned over to St Louis Paramedics with an abnormal EKG, but I couldn't tell what it was.

I returned to me seat to find out the guy I was sitting next to was a new Emergency Medicine DO resident. We talked for the rest of the flight, damn insecure doctors.

So instead of slumping away as I imagine, I volunteered. And in return I got a few claps, a certificate from the airline, and an extra bag of peanuts.

Another life saved.
 
Good for you Matt! I'm sure the patient and his family really appreciate it. I'm so proud of you!
 
Good Job Matt :D Its amazing how often or so it seems that those with higher medical care are the slowest to respond. In fact the other day I responded to a diffeculty breathing and the patient was unresponsive and no pulse. I started O2 on her and waited for a BVM as we didn't bring on in oopps. I started Bagging we got her in the rig and hooked her up to the defib I think it is the second time in two years I have had to hook some one up we annalyzed and no shock advised. When we got to the hospital We continued to help bagging and cpr. We also got the nurses to okay for the nurses to use a combi tube on the patient. As our hospital staff trained in this type of air way as we are a level four hospital. Well anyways They handed me the box with the tube and had me set it up and then I got to insert it. This was the first time that I have had to tube a person.
Anyways the point is that you did an awesome job and there is a first time for everything. For the volley squad that I run with we all are still experinceing first for everything.

Again Good Job :D
 
You're a basic and you can tube?
 
Good job, Matt!

Did you ever notice that the higher someone is in the medical food chain, the less likely they are to volunteer to assist at an emergency?
 
an extra bag of peanuts? w00t!
 
rescuecpt Were you asking me if I could tube?

If so:
Yeah on our squad with our CPR For healthcare providers we are all taught to insert the combi tube. The First Responders on up I know are taught the skills along with defib. I am not a hundrad percent for sure if our drivers are allowed to but they are trained in healthcare provider CPR also. We had the hospital nurses become interested in this a year back or so because they veiwed it as being easyier than inserting a ET tube. Or however the discusion went. I know we have used a combi tube in the ER before for the nurses that was after they had tried their ET tube so we used our combi tube I don't think it worked yet but they liked the idea of having two chance as to one.
Besides what Level are you that you sound so surpirsed or what are your protocals about this?
 
I'm a basic, with Healthcare provider CPR and I've never been taught the Combi-tube, or any tube... THAT'S why I'm suprised about the tube.

No offense intended, I am glad to see EMS head in that Direction.
 
Originally posted by PArescueEMT@Jan 8 2005, 11:54 PM
I am glad to see EMS head in that Direction.
AMEN!!!
 
Gorilla what two types?

I wasn't taught anything about combitubes in class, but my job allows basics to drop them and trained us on the job.
 
Great job Matt.
 
Originally posted by emtbuff@Jan 8 2005, 10:14 PM
rescuecpt Were you asking me if I could tube?

If so:
Yeah on our squad with our CPR For healthcare providers we are all taught to insert the combi tube. The First Responders on up I know are taught the skills along with defib. I am not a hundrad percent for sure if our drivers are allowed to but they are trained in healthcare provider CPR also. We had the hospital nurses become interested in this a year back or so because they veiwed it as being easyier than inserting a ET tube. Or however the discusion went. I know we have used a combi tube in the ER before for the nurses that was after they had tried their ET tube so we used our combi tube I don't think it worked yet but they liked the idea of having two chance as to one.
Besides what Level are you that you sound so surpirsed or what are your protocals about this?
Around here basics can only insert OPA's & NPA's.

ALS just got combi-tubes (before that it was intubation or OPA's & NPA's). Just wondering, because not a lot of places let basics do advanced airway management yet.

For the record I'm an EMT-CC, which in NY means I can do everything EMT-P's can do except needle crich.
 
in my area, P's are the only ones allowed to tube, shock or give drugs. im waiting on the results from my NR exam to see if im a P yet. but they usually try to orally intubate, if its really hard to almost impossible then they will go to the combi tube. but its rare. we have EMT-I's, but theyre not really used in the FD. they can start IV's and all the B skills (OPA & NPA).
 
I'm in FL and we EMT-B's can intubate with a combi-tube. We never use it though because we always have a Medic to use the ET tube.
 
daemonicusxx
Did I read that right that you can't push the little button that says shock when directed by the defib. Or do you use a different type of defib. If I remember right our is a life pack 12. And yes we are allowed to shock if the defib indicates it.
Where I run we don't have any medics and only have 3 I's which really can't do much different than a B. Sure they can start IV's but we always think and say that We will save the veins for the hospital staff. We also only have a couple minute ETA for the most part.
 
Originally posted by emtbuff@Jan 10 2005, 03:42 PM
daemonicusxx
Did I read that right that you can't push the little button that says shock when directed by the defib. Or do you use a different type of defib. If I remember right our is a life pack 12. And yes we are allowed to shock if the defib indicates it.
Where I run we don't have any medics and only have 3 I's which really can't do much different than a B. Sure they can start IV's but we always think and say that We will save the veins for the hospital staff. We also only have a couple minute ETA for the most part.
I interpreted it as he couldn't use a manual defib, I hope all basics are allowed to use an automated defib.
 
Originally posted by emtbuff@Jan 11 2005, 03:33 PM
Yeah the defib like i mentioned is a life pack 12 and is automated.
Right... and it has the manual configuration for the medics too, right? That's what we have at the Corps. And the Zoll at the FD does the same thing.
 
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