AMR Hiring SoCal?

DesertMedic66

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You’d be amazed at what goes on in the AMR area alone when they’re off duty. I worked three divisions away and heard the stories. Made me never want to work the event.
I have worked the events since 2011 and personally have not had any issues. The problems are all at the staff camping area (that area is pretty much only populated by Riverside division employees).

It’s an MCI so all of our treatments are standing order, there is very little paperwork (i usually work the medic carts so it’s just vitals and demos and that’s it).
 

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Not looking to restart any of the very opinionated post about Riverside; but I am curious if someone could comment if the division is still negotiating?
 

DesertMedic66

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Not looking to restart any of the very opinionated post about Riverside; but I am curious if someone could comment if the division is still negotiating?
Not what they were asking for but better than their current situation. I’m sure AMR is already finding ways around a lot of the talk in the contract.
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Definitely better than my current employer, which is decidedly less friendly.
 

DesertMedic66

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Definitely better than my current employer, which is decidedly less friendly.
AMR is slowly becoming better in Riverside county and the scope of practice is also slowly increasing (push dose pressors, Ketamine, TXA)
 

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Not what they were asking for but better than their current situation. I’m sure AMR is already finding ways around a lot of the talk in the contract.View attachment 4461
That's a press release from the union.... says they won a lot, what did they have to give up to get it? What is the new article on attendance? That 30 minute second out might work, until a supervisor says they are closest unit and a further unit wouldn't meet response times. In fact, an on the ball dispatch supervisor would tell dispatch to do a further unit, to prevent OT for the off going crew. For that last 15 minutes, I would hate to see the news media when grandma who lives down from the block from the station dies, because she went into cardiac arrest 14 minutes before shift change, so a further ambulance was sent.....

dispatch should have already been sending units back to their home base when levels permit. no reason to keep them far from their home base, other than poor dispatching and poor system management.

can't believe you had to "win" the right to file a grievance by email, vs certified mail or hand delivery, especially when you work out of multiple stations.

what does "won work station language giving union a voice in system status?" Does that mean the union officers can tell a supervisor when they are at low numbers? or that they can't send a unit to cover a coverage hole?

"won language on CISM, allowing PTO after a critical incident." Does this time come out of the employee's PTO bank? or is it a seperate CISM bank, and treated like an on the job injury, so if you need a few days to recover from an injury, it is covered by your workman's comp and not your vacation or sick time?

I'm curious what the camera regulations are in the ambulance or in the station. if you aren't doing anything wrong, why is this a problem? and according to most PD officer, they don't want cameras, but cameras often prove them innocent when they are falsely accused of doing something.

what was the improved language on part time employment?

your employer wanted to search employee vehicles? I would have said not without a search warrant signed by a judge. Geez, apparently it was a lot worse than I expected, but that's why you need a contract.

I hope the union members actually read the agreement, because all too often what the union press release says and what the contract actually said might be far apart. But it looks like the new contract should improve things for the members; my only concern would be (if I was a union member) what did they give up to get all these wins?
 

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You are just still so negative about our win. This is a win when its in regards to AMR... List us one divison that has made more progress?

That's a press release from the union.... says they won a lot, what did they have to give up to get it? What is the new article on attendance? That 30 minute second out might work, until a supervisor says they are closest unit and a further unit wouldn't meet response times. In fact, an on the ball dispatch supervisor would tell dispatch to do a further unit, to prevent OT for the off going crew. For that last 15 minutes, I would hate to see the news media when grandma who lives down from the block from the station dies, because she went into cardiac arrest 14 minutes before shift change, so a further ambulance was sent.....

dispatch should have already been sending units back to their home base when levels permit. no reason to keep them far from their home base, other than poor dispatching and poor system management.

can't believe you had to "win" the right to file a grievance by email, vs certified mail or hand delivery, especially when you work out of multiple stations.

what does "won work station language giving union a voice in system status?" Does that mean the union officers can tell a supervisor when they are at low numbers? or that they can't send a unit to cover a coverage hole?

"won language on CISM, allowing PTO after a critical incident." Does this time come out of the employee's PTO bank? or is it a seperate CISM bank, and treated like an on the job injury, so if you need a few days to recover from an injury, it is covered by your workman's comp and not your vacation or sick time?

I'm curious what the camera regulations are in the ambulance or in the station. if you aren't doing anything wrong, why is this a problem? and according to most PD officer, they don't want cameras, but cameras often prove them innocent when they are falsely accused of doing something.

what was the improved language on part time employment?

your employer wanted to search employee vehicles? I would have said not without a search warrant signed by a judge. Geez, apparently it was a lot worse than I expected, but that's why you need a contract.

I hope the union members actually read the agreement, because all too often what the union press release says and what the contract actually said might be far apart. But it looks like the new contract should improve things for the members; my only concern would be (if I was a union member) what did they give up to get all these wins?
 

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That's a press release from the union.... says they won a lot, what did they have to give up to get it? What is the new article on attendance? That 30 minute second out might work, until a supervisor says they are closest unit and a further unit wouldn't meet response times. In fact, an on the ball dispatch supervisor would tell dispatch to do a further unit, to prevent OT for the off going crew. For that last 15 minutes, I would hate to see the news media when grandma who lives down from the block from the station dies, because she went into cardiac arrest 14 minutes before shift change, so a further ambulance was sent.....

dispatch should have already been sending units back to their home base when levels permit. no reason to keep them far from their home base, other than poor dispatching and poor system management.

can't believe you had to "win" the right to file a grievance by email, vs certified mail or hand delivery, especially when you work out of multiple stations.

what does "won work station language giving union a voice in system status?" Does that mean the union officers can tell a supervisor when they are at low numbers? or that they can't send a unit to cover a coverage hole?

"won language on CISM, allowing PTO after a critical incident." Does this time come out of the employee's PTO bank? or is it a seperate CISM bank, and treated like an on the job injury, so if you need a few days to recover from an injury, it is covered by your workman's comp and not your vacation or sick time?

I'm curious what the camera regulations are in the ambulance or in the station. if you aren't doing anything wrong, why is this a problem? and according to most PD officer, they don't want cameras, but cameras often prove them innocent when they are falsely accused of doing something.

what was the improved language on part time employment?

your employer wanted to search employee vehicles? I would have said not without a search warrant signed by a judge. Geez, apparently it was a lot worse than I expected, but that's why you need a contract.

I hope the union members actually read the agreement, because all too often what the union press release says and what the contract actually said might be far apart. But it looks like the new contract should improve things for the members; my only concern would be (if I was a union member) what did they give up to get all these wins?
And FYI we didn't give up crap. It's hard to give something up when you don't have anything to begin with.
 

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I’m curious about the new pay tables. Those are some significant increases, would not be surprised if the goal is to staunch the overtime bleeding.
 

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You are just still so negative about our win. This is a win when its in regards to AMR... List us one divison that has made more progress?

And FYI we didn't give up crap. It's hard to give something up when you don't have anything to begin with.
Let me give you a life lesson skippy: when you negotiate, you win some, and you lose some. All too often, for everything you gain, you have to give something up. That's how negotiations work. And if AMR did give you everything you asked for, and asked for nothing in return, than they had some really sucky negotiators.

I have no doubt that you gained many of the things you were asking for, but don't think that AMR gave them to you out of the goodness of their hearts, or just because you asked for it. If it was negotiated for, than they got something in return, or were willing to give something up in exchange for getting that item.

I've been through contract negotiations, I've had union shop stewards tell me "yeah, the contract says this, but it's going to take a court case to force the employer to follow through on the contract," as well as been told "yeah, the contract says this, but I'm not going to go to management with that complaint, because all it will do is piss them off, and I have my own career to look at too." I've also had the union tell me something was in the works, and management knew nothing about it, or the supervisors had 0 intention of implementing that change, especially before the contract was signed and distributed to the general membership.

And for the record, I don't know of a single AMR division that has made more progress than you did, so maybe Riverside will now be a trend setter.

Or maybe your right, and things were soooo horribly bad in Riverside, that they needed to give you something that was a minor concession on the grounds that you didn't cause them any negative PR..... and this is a win, and AMR Riverside will go from a horrible place to work, to an awesome place to work, and in a year or two, you can rub it in my face how I was all negative and you were right all along. But I wouldn't bet my paycheck on that if I was you....
 

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Apparently, he doesn’t want to answer your questions, except give you the “We are so tough, Corporate ran off with their tails between their legs...” bs.
 

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EMTs or Medics?
EMTs for sure, medics I don’t know about.

He said assuming the interview goes well, either I’ll get placed on a waitlist for the next time they hire or I get pushed into an orientation class.
 

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EMTs for sure, medics I don’t know about.

He said assuming the interview goes well, either I’ll get placed on a waitlist for the next time they hire or I get pushed into an orientation class.
Nice man! Good luck with that hopefully it goes good.
I don’t see anything on the website but I’ll keep a keen eye out.
 

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Hey guys, long time lurker, first post.
Ive been working as a EMT doing IFT for a quick second now down in Socal, and want to try to move to a ALS job. Should I wait and apply to AMR Riverside next time they are hiring, ( who knows when that will be though) or man up and deal with a hour and a half commute to AMR San Diego or AMR Redlands?
Thanks in advance.
You can apply at Morongo Basin Ambulance up in Joshua Tree. FT is a straight 72 hr shift.
 

DesertMedic66

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I’ve been there for nearly 19 years. Part time for the last year. Some great experiences and just like any company you have IFTs. It’s a great place to work
We have about a dozen of your former employees at my part time job haha
 
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