So, you posted the link to the Physio-control AED that requires no training for laypeople, according to you...
this is directly from the link, which you yourself have posted:
"The Lifepak CR Plus Defibrillator is designed specifically for infrequent use and for use by people who's only training is IN CPR AND IN USING AED'S."
Buddy, you don't have your own facts straight here... public access means you don't have to have EMT level training to operate... NO WHERE does any literature anywhere claim that training is not necessary or beneficial.
you can stand by your statement, but according to the information that YOU have posted, it is dead wrong.
Can you please tell me where you found that quote? I ask because I don't see it anywhere on the page that I linked to. Nor do I find it on the "Important Disclosure and Safety Information" page that's linked to from the page that I linked to. Nor do I find it in the online user's manual that can be downloaded from that page.
However, I DO find this on the page I linked to:
The LIFEPAK CR® Plus AED and LIFEPAK EXPRESS® AED were created for lay users in commercial and public settings. For use by the first person at the scene of a cardiac arrest, they are designed for minimally-trained rescuers.
Now maybe I'm just stupid, but to me, "lay user" means someone who is not trained in a particular task or profession. Furthermore, how can they make a statement that it's designed for "use by the first person at the scene...", if they intend for it to be used by someone "who's only training is IN CPR AND IN USING AED'S" (your words), when they can have no possible idea who the first person on the scene will be or what that person's training will be?
Now, I will give you this: What I just quoted from the page I originally linked to does say, "...they are designed for use by minimally-trained rescuers." Minimally-trained, while not specific, does imply some training. How much? Impossible to say. What I
can say, though, having just read the manual, is that the manual does not say anywhere that the use must be trained in CPRs or AED. The only comment the manual makes about training is, "Do not attempt to operate this defibrillator unless thoroughly familiar with these operating instructions and the function of all controls, indicators, connectors, and accessories."
Personally, I feel it is misleading to describe a product as intended for use by lay people, but to secretly expect them to have at least some training, even if it's only having read the manual. The manual is 76 pages long! How can Physio-Control say the product is intended for use by the first person on the scene, and expect that person to have coincidentally already read the manual, or take the time to read it then when someone's dying on the floor in front of them? So if I was mistaken in believing that "lay person AEDs" are intended for use by lay people, then please forgive me. I was judging the product class on its own description.
I will ammend my statement to be that no formal training is necessary nor should be given (unless it is full CPR+AED),
other than reading the manual.
emtbuff, it might be easier for us (well, at least for me) to provide meaningful help if we understood what the actual intended purpose is. You only mention that it's for a place that you work. What type of place is it? What type of people work there, visit there, and otherwise can be found there? You mention that it's for use by "Lay persons/trained personal" in your original post but in your most recent post you say you're all training in CPR, and will soon be re-certifying and adding defib training. Can you clarify?
If the AED is only going to be used by someone trained in CPR+AED, maybe just go with a regular AED like the Lifepack 1000 or something from Philips HeartStart, Zoll, or Welch-Allyn.
