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Governor wants to Know about Schiavo 911 Call By: bpresken@sbgnet.com


Did Terri Schiavo's husband make a 911 call after she collapsed in 1990?
Governor Jeb Bush says there is doubt. . . and wants to find out.
Terri Schiavo's parents have previously said their son-in-law waited more than an hour to make the call. An autopsy report released this week didn't say whether that was true or not.
Bush says he might ask a state attorney to investigate the allegation.
Terri Schiavo died March 31st after her feeding tube was disconnected despite unsuccessful attempts by Bush to keep her alive.
 
:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: I am sorry to open this can of worms, but you know, I am really upset over this.

First they wage this long drawn out court battle about what she really wanted.
Then, they did the autopsy when she died so the questions about abuse and her medical condiditon could be solved.

Then, the autopsy report comes out and shows no signs of trauma before her collapse, or after...AND it shows her to have been in a persistant vegetative state, BUT her parents say that the ME was wrong!

Now the damn Governor, as if he does not have better things to do with his time, pulls this crap.

I am just so darn happy we will be done with all the Bush's as leaders after the next elections!!!
 
My goodness!!! You are against the Bush folks because they won't leave this womans memory and her family alone. Then you use the same woman as a way to bash the Bush family. What exactly makes you different from them?? :rolleyes:
 
Is this really a concern of the government? George and Jeb think so, the Supreme Court thinks otherwise.

Yeah yeah that's far too simple of a statement, but I do believe this has gone of far too long. One of my favorite sites, fark.com, that lists crazy / important news stories with witty headlines wrote, "Jeb Bush continues to flagellate a deceased equine" :rolleyes:

I think it's time we moved on.
 
I had heard on the radio that they are reopening the case because authorities are questioning why it took her husband about an hour to call 911 after he found her collapsed on the floor.

I am just so darn happy we will be done with all the Bush's as leaders after the next elections!!!
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I guess you haven't heard that Jeb is thinking about running in the next election??
 
OK, according to the autopsy report (which I have a copy of), the 911 call was made at 0540 on 25 Feb 1990. Both Mr. Schiavo and Bobby Schindler (Terri's brother) were on scene when the medics arrived. The paramedics reached her at 0552 and found her in VF. They intubated her and gave five doses of epi (1 by ETT, 4 IV), lidocaine by bolus and drip, Narcan, dopamine and was defibrillated seven times.

A pulse was noted at 0632, but a measurable SBP was not recorded until 0646 upon arrival at Humana Hospital-Northside.


It sounds like the good Governor is operating off hearsay again. She was down for nearly an hour with no obtainable BP AFTER the paramedics arrived and she was in VF when they arrived, not to mention her BROTHER was there (from what the news said he lived with the Schiavos) so it makes the plausibility of the "he waited an hour" story seem highly unlikely. I don't think the chances of her being able to be resuscitated after almost two hours of arrest at room temperature are even estimatable. Like I said, I do believe the Governor is just pissed that he didn't get his way. The family continues to delude themselves and I feel sorry for them. I hope they find the solace they seek, but I don't see that happening at least in the forseeable future because of the ongoing actions such as this.

If anyone else has any questions about the autopsy report, please let me know and I'll be happy to send you a copy.
 
The main thing here is that this is NOT a political issue. Governers, presidents, supreme court or anything like that needs to be involved in a case like this. It is a matter of her doctors and her families making a decision. The fact that her parents and husband who both supposedly cared about her couldnt get together and diplomatically reach a decision is ridiculous. Also the fact that this is still in the news is even more outrageous. Decisions like this are made EVERYDAY and we dont hear anything about it, why now?
 
Originally posted by Firechic@Jun 17 2005, 10:59 PM
I had heard on the radio that they are reopening the case because authorities are questioning why it took her husband about an hour to call 911 after he found her collapsed on the floor.

I am just so darn happy we will be done with all the Bush's as leaders after the next elections!!!
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I guess you haven't heard that Jeb is thinking about running in the next election??
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Laura Bush probably has the popularity for it....
 
Originally posted by CodeSurfer@Jun 18 2005, 12:51 AM
The main thing here is that this is NOT a political issue. Governers, presidents, supreme court or anything like that needs to be involved in a case like this. It is a matter of her doctors and her families making a decision. The fact that her parents and husband who both supposedly cared about her couldnt get together and diplomatically reach a decision is ridiculous. Also the fact that this is still in the news is even more outrageous. Decisions like this are made EVERYDAY and we dont hear anything about it, why now?
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Why now?

Because we have a Staunchly Conservitive Republican Goverment that wants to stand on "the high moral ground" and likes to get involved in everything that you can thump a bible at.... "Right to die" "Woman's right to choose" "ETOH sales on sundays" etc, etc, etc,

Jon
 
Originally posted by coloradoemt@Jun 17 2005, 06:04 PM
My goodness!!! You are against the Bush folks because they won't leave this womans memory and her family alone. Then you use the same woman as a way to bash the Bush family. What exactly makes you different from them?? :rolleyes:
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It is not that I am against the Bush folks for not leaving this womans memory alone.

I am not now, nor have I ever been, a Bush supporter, and this is not a good place to go into that.


I do have a problem with our elected leaders putting their perverbial noses into every problem that arises, when they know darn good and well they are over reaching their authority. This is a personal religous issue for him. And there are way to many issues he needs to be dealing with in the state to be wasting my time...yes, my time and the time of every other person who pays taxes in this state..on his personal religous issues.
 
If anyone else has any questions about the autopsy report, please let me know and I'll be happy to send you a copy.
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Where did you get a copy of her autopsy report?
 
Originally posted by Firechic@Jun 18 2005, 09:32 AM
If anyone else has any questions about the autopsy report, please let me know and I'll be happy to send you a copy.
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Where did you get a copy of her autopsy report?
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I had the same thoughts..... but it is probably on rotten.com or one of the other sites that specializes in morbid stuff...
 
Actually I got mine from the Washington Post website. It was released publicly in it's entirety as a PDF document.
 
current politics demands diversion, and there's no better media folly than Terry's case (except maybe the run away bride & Jacko)

with all due respect to Terry, and the multitudes of ex-humans langusihing, this is a non-story by spineless media

~S~
 
Originally posted by Firechic@Jun 17 2005, 07:59 PM
I had heard on the radio that they are reopening the case because authorities are questioning why it took her husband about an hour to call 911 after he found her collapsed on the floor.

I am just so darn happy we will be done with all the Bush's as leaders after the next elections!!!
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I guess you haven't heard that Jeb is thinking about running in the next election??
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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong on these points.

1) I don't believe the husband is under any legal obligation to call 911 for her when he found her. He is definately under a moral obligation, but a legal one would be pushing the limits of the government's power.

2) Even if he was under a legal obligation to call 911 for his wife, the statue of limitations on that ran out years ago...unless they intend on charging him with murder.

The government should have never been involved in this, other than the first couple of court cases. For Congress to pass a special law for one person is asinine, considering how well they do governing the other 200+ million of us in this country.

I understand the grief that her parents are going through, along with the overwhelming desire that she could have recovered. But for the parents to state, in light of all the medical evidence presented so far, that the ME was wrong in his autopsy shows that they will refuse to accept anything other than their version of the truth.
 
Well said.

The parents are more or less delusional. There is no other way I can even begin to describe it. To refuse ten years down the line, with no sign of improvement and massive amounts of medical evidence stating that there will be no improvement, to realize that there will be no improvement and all that has been is all that can be done is beyond anything I can describe in any manner other than delusional. I guess their religion, to which they have clung throughout this all, seems to make them value the quantitative standard of life over any qualitative measure of it.
 
The whole "time discrepency" issue is solely based on comments Michaael Schiavo made at two seperate times. In the 1992 malpractice lawsuit (2 years after the fact), he testified that he had found her at 5:00. In a 2003 interview (13 years after the fact), he said that he'd found her at 4:30. However, he also states that he called 911 immediately upon finding her.

So, was there really a delay, or is did he just misremember what time it was? I haven't seen anything that actually shows a record of any delay, and as others have pointed out, if she was down for that long a period of time, there never would have been this sad chapter in history because she'd have died 15 years ago.
 
She has been dead for 15 years, they just finally let her go.
 
Originally posted by CodeSurfer@Jun 19 2005, 12:16 AM
She has been dead for 15 years, they just finally let her go.
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I don't define what the family did as "letting her go". They're still trying desperately to punish their son-in-law for doing the decent thing. They haven't let go and probably never will.
 
Originally posted by EMTPrincess@Jun 17 2005, 12:13 PM
...I am just so darn happy we will be done with all the Bush's as leaders after the next elections!!!
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Gore weighed in on this subject too...Politicians are all scum, but Republicans are less repugnant than the liberals (there are no such thing as Democrats any more...just liberals :angry: )
 
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