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medicRob said:
ffemt and I talked about this. While jailbreaking is perfectly legal, we have agreed that it is best to just keep this content off the forum all together, so out of the respect for the agreement that was made between myself and ffemt, I am going to have to decline to answer that question.
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As someone who doesn't own a smart phone (witch! Burn the witch!), what, exactly, is jailbreaking and the associated ethical concerns?
 
JPINFV said:
As someone who doesn't own a smart phone (witch! Burn the witch!), what, exactly, is jailbreaking and the associated ethical concerns?
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Jailbreaking (unlocking) is pretty much hacking the device. It opens it up to other media sources. You can get applications that apple doesn't approve to be in their iTunes store and you can do countless software changes so your device works differently and looks different. The ethical concerns are well you are hacking a device that they don't want you hack. However apple has now allowed unlocking (jailbreaking) your Itouch/iPhone legal. But on the other hand since they made it legal the new updates that apple puts out fixes the holes in the software that hackers got into. So it is making it alot harder to jailbreak. IMHO it's not worth it.
 
JPINFV said:
As someone who doesn't own a smart phone (witch! Burn the witch!), what, exactly, is jailbreaking and the associated ethical concerns?
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Well, speaking with regard to jailbreaking of iPhones, one has to understand that in their factory state, iPhones and other iOS devices can only download apps through iTunes, these apps go through an approval process, so apps with objectionable content rarely make it. Moreover, these devices have a somewhat limited functionality (For example, the bluetooth abilities of the iPad absolutely suck because the bluetooth stack doesnt allow for enough external devices).

The iPhone-Dev team, a group of programmers decided to mod the iPhone by finding exploits in the basic architecture of the device's firmware, allowing for the restrictions on the device to be removed (which allows us for installation of Cydia, the alternative app store where anyone can submit an app regardless of content), moreover, jailbreaking has opened up the ability for individuals to mod their devices with new themes, extended functionality (such as the use of an external bluetooth GPS for the wifi only devices, as is the case with BTstack).

In the beginning, there were questions surrounding the legality of jailbreaking. Soon after, the Supreme Court, in a suit filed by Apple ruled that jailbreaking of iOS devices was legal. However, Apple soon retorted with a statement that all users who jailbreak will have voided their warranties (which really isnt a problem since all you have to do is a device restore and Apple will never know).

I won't get in to how paid apps can be downloaded for free via jailbreaking, because that is one of the main reasons ffemt doesn't want this site involved with any endorsements of jailbreaking by its users as it still constitutes the theft of an individual or company's intellectual property, which is protected by law. So after having a discussion about it with ffemt (because someone had asked me before and I was kind of confused on how to address the issue on the forum), we decided that it was best for me to not show people things like how to jailbreak on the forum.
 
I'm in chat.
 
I want to just skip this week and next week. Moving house, job interviews, standardized tests, and more job interviews.

And no internet till next week because Time Warner sucks.
 
medicRob has opened a Space Cad session, has both his linear algebra textbook from college as well as Vogels Textbook of Practical Organic Chemistry with him, and a trusty Chembiooffice 12 digital merck manual of chems on his screen.

Did he mention he is a Pyro?

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Now the only question is should he go with 3,3,6,6-Tetramethyl-1,2,4,5-tetraoxane stabilized with nitrocellulose or Hexamethylene triperoxide diamine..

Either way, you should probably run. Rocket launcher bike is that much closer to coming to fruition.
 
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Jailbreaking is apparently as easy as plugging in your phone and letting some program do it for you but it has the potential to brick your phone if the program effs up. Not recommended at all.

If you want a better phone just get an android phone =P

I didn't even know they still made dumb phones.
 
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Sasha said:
Jailbreaking is apparently as easy as plugging in your phone and letting a program do it for you.
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Umm, yeah. You just boot into DFU mode, click to jailbreak, then the device does the rest. User runs the risk with jb, no promises are made. Droid sucks. Not to mention,
droid only has like 65,000 apps, iPhone has well over 300,000.
 
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I just chased a lizard with a spatula for ten minutes.
 
medicRob said:
Umm, yeah. You just boot into DFU mode, click to jailbreak, then the device does the rest. User runs the risk with jb, no promises are made. Droid sucks. Not to mention,
droid only has like 65,000 apps, iPhone has well over 300,000.
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Droid rocks, I can get a ton of apps without voiding my warranty. And the apps for droid are pretty much whatever you want them to be, there's even an app to buy mobile porn.
 
Sasha said:
Droid rocks, I can get a ton of apps without voiding my warranty. And the apps for droid are pretty much whatever you want them to be, there's even an app to buy mobile porn.
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Those 300,000 apps did not include the jailbroken ones. Those are all legit apps. When you factor in jailbroken apps, the list increases by at least 10,000
 
medicRob said:
Those 300,000 apps did not include the jailbroken ones. Those are all legit apps. When you factor in jailbroken apps, the list increases by at least 10,000
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Still. I prefer droid phones. I like having an awesome operating system no matter what style of phone. With iPhone there's only one style of hardware.

I also like that I don't have to potentially brick my phone to have access to a consumer driven, unrestricted app market.

I also love my widgets. The widgets alone are a good reason to go droid.
 
Sasha said:
Still. I prefer droid phones. I like having an awesome operating system no matter what style of phone. With iPhone there's only one style of hardware.

I also like that I don't have to potentially brick my phone to have access to a consumer driven, unrestricted app market.

I also love my widgets. The widgets alone are a good reason to go droid.
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Actually, no. Android market rejects apps as well.

As for Jb and bricking, wrong on that front too:

http://www.unlockandroid.com/

http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/wiki/Unbrick

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lightsandsirens5 said:
And you know this how? o_o

What the heck are you doing with your phone Sasha?
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I have an app on my phone that gives me porn too, It's called "Camera".. bwahahaha
 
medicRob said:
I have an app on my phone that gives me porn too, It's called "Camera".. bwahahaha
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Mine gives me asian lesbian porn. My favorite kind.
 
3 days til Nurse Jackie starts again! I can't wait.
 
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