the 100% directionless thread

irishboxer384 said:
you sound like a serial killer
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Ok to clarify so the FBI doesn't show up at my door.

60 year old female pulled from a fire. Went to extremity lift her to the stretcher, and off came her skin. She was DOA but we took her to the truck to put her in a body bag, and wait for the coroner.
 
Anjel said:
Ok to clarify so the FBI doesn't show up at my door.

60 year old female pulled from a fire. Went to extremity lift her to the stretcher, and off came her skin. She was DOA but we took her to the truck to put her in a body bag, and wait for the coroner.
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Medium rare or well done?
 
Medium rare. Smoked for sure.
 
I was wondering if there was any humour on this forum.. Seems there is. o_O
 
RocketMedic said:
Trimal04, you seem to be under the impression that being selective and finding fault with employers is a sign of elitism and arrogance; I see it as absolutely necessary. Certaintly no company or service is perfect, but I refuse to settle for agencies that do not meet my minimum standards and will not work for places that I do not agree with at least broadly.
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That's not at all what I said, or have ever said or implied. Your response is telling though. I'll say it again, I'm more than happy to have a conversation about what I meant and why I mean it either here or by PM if you don't want it to be public. It's your choice.

RocketMedic said:
Me? Tired of making less than $50,000 a year, tired of diabetes-inducing street-corner posting, tired of looking for county services that try to be everything except a fire department and end up acting like Delta Force but performing like the Keystone Kops, getting tired of private EMS where quarterly profit margins are more important than employee health andsafety.
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Then why do you only seem to work at places like that and never for a "good" department? You really need to figure out the real answer to that question.
 
Call me crazy or ignorant but I think you're reading too much into it rocket. How come it can't just be large and complicated system so they want to give you the best possible opportunity to be successful?
Me coming from out of state and knowing NOTHING about Texas I wouldn't mind some extra time to get to know the roads and general culture.
Time goes fast and I could either spend it at a job making 18 an hour with no benefits of retirement, no opportunity to move up the latter, or working as an EMT accruing benefits and adding to a pension and becoming a medic after a year or 2 in a well respected system. Seems like a no brainer to me.
 
Angel, it's a filter, plain and simple. They use that requirement to remove people like me, people who are assertive and are able to learn and master a system fairly quickly, people who are fairly independent, free thinkers, etc. Simply put, it's a control to keep the "right" people there. Austin's EMS system is not terribly complicated nor does it take months or even years for even an average paramedic to master, nor is their medicine or practice abnormal- certainly not to the point where one needs literal years in a secondary role to comprehend the job (and no, Chewy, the recent "it's less than two years!" is still years in a basic role.

I do not begrudge others the opportunities offered, and I am a little jealous of the long term benefits of civil service, but I would prefer to work in other systems where I can be a paramedic without initial prostration.

Trimal04, I think I get what you are trying to say. You believe it is my attitude that leads me to think that so many different places suck, and I somewhat agree. I do often find flaws in a service, I do let those evaluations guide my employment and I do seek better options for myself and my family. I don't think that's wrong.
 
triemal04 said:
That's not at all what I said, or have ever said or implied. Your response is telling though. I'll say it again, I'm more than happy to have a conversation about what I meant and why I mean it either here or by PM if you don't want it to be public. It's your choice.


Then why do you only seem to work at places like that and never for a "good" department? You really need to figure out the real answer to that question.
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Um....that's like 70% of the industry.
 
Angel said:
Call me crazy or ignorant but I think you're reading too much into it rocket. How come it can't just be large and complicated system so they want to give you the best possible opportunity to be successful?
Me coming from out of state and knowing NOTHING about Texas I wouldn't mind some extra time to get to know the roads and general culture.
Time goes fast and I could either spend it at a job making 18 an hour with no benefits of retirement, no opportunity to move up the latter, or working as an EMT accruing benefits and adding to a pension and becoming a medic after a year or 2 in a well respected system. Seems like a no brainer to me.
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Rocket can be very opinionated at times, often with a different view than the typical EMS provider, but I have to agree with him here. ATC is a good system for a basic or a brand new, inexperienced paramedic. If you're a medic with some experience, and especially one that's intelligent and capable of getting on to a good system, there are far better options. At ATC, you will get paid well and accrue a good amount of experience in a short time. That is a good enough reason for some. If it is for you, then go for it. Nobody is going to attack you for applying there. That honor is reserved for @Chewy20 [emoji6]

ETA: As a basic, it's an incredible system to get on to. The pay and experience are unparalleled for a basic, save a big city fire department. People like to harp that EMTs should get experience before going to medic- I usually do not agree with that, but if ATC is the experience they get, then I would be much more apt to supporting an experience requirement.
 
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RocketMedic said:
They use that requirement to remove people like me, people who are assertive and are able to learn and master a system fairly quickly, people who are fairly independent, free thinkers, etc.
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This has nothing to do with defending the department, but you are seriously way to into yourself...get off your high horse bud.
 
My high horse is necessary to pursue, corral and domesticate my unicorn. I shall not depart it.

It is not arrogant to assess myself. I am capable of functioning in practically any EMS service in the nation with not more than basic orientation; I sense the same is true for many of us here. A few services would give me pause, simply due to their scope. Many, many, many services would be easy to learn but do not provide the opportunities both personally and professionally that I want.
 
RocketMedic said:
Trimal04, I think I get what you are trying to say. You believe it is my attitude that leads me to think that so many different places suck, and I somewhat agree. I do often find flaws in a service, I do let those evaluations guide my employment and I do seek better options for myself and my family. I don't think that's wrong.
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Question: if you are such a masterful paramedic and wonderful person and so beneficial to have, why have you only ever held jobs at bad departments? Why do you only work for bad services (whether they really are or just that you consider them that way is immaterial) and are never hired by good departments? This isn't an insult, it's a real and honest question that you really need to figure out.
 
RocketMedic said:
Um....that's like 70% of the industry.
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30% of all EMS services qualify as good to you? Hell, that should be great news for you; that's a very large number of departments for you to choose from. Why have you never been hired by one and only hired by "bad" departments?
 
This is the most interesting this thread has been since I joined
 
triemal04 said:
30% of all EMS services qualify as good to you? Hell, that should be great news for you; that's a very large number of departments for you to choose from. Why have you never been hired by one and only hired by "bad" departments?
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Because, sir, it is often very difficult to separate the good from the bad without experience, and I am still a fairly new paramedic. I once thought that bright lights, "high-performance", expansive protocols and medical directors that published in JEMS and that advertised all the time on EMS jobsites were awesome; I learned otherwise in two years. I learned a lot of other places aren't worth the hassles. I learned a few are worth the hassles, but I have passed by quite a few good opportunities because they're not right for my wife or long-term planning.

If you really need explanations as to how one could find dissatisfaction in elements of the US Army, well, I refer you to the Internet.
 
For what it's worth, perhaps 30% of services are worth even inquiring about. Far fewer are what I seek.
 
RocketMedic said:
My high horse is necessary to pursue, corral and domesticate my unicorn. I shall not depart it.

It is not arrogant to assess myself. I am capable of functioning in practically any EMS service in the nation with not more than basic orientation; I sense the same is true for many of us here. A few services would give me pause, simply due to their scope. Many, many, many services would be easy to learn but do not provide the opportunities both personally and professionally that I want.
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Did you happen to apply here last spring? If you did, I know who you are lol.
 
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