the 100% directionless thread

Nope, I have never and likely never will apply with ATC. I disagree with their policies to such an extent as to consider it futile.
 
RocketMedic said:
Because, sir, it is often very difficult to separate the good from the bad without experience, and I am still a fairly new paramedic. I once thought that bright lights, "high-performance", expansive protocols and medical directors that published in JEMS and that advertised all the time on EMS jobsites were awesome; I learned otherwise in two years. I learned a lot of other places aren't worth the hassles. I learned a few are worth the hassles, but I have passed by quite a few good opportunities because they're not right for my wife or long-term planning.

If you really need explanations as to how one could find dissatisfaction in elements of the US Army, well, I refer you to the Internet.
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So you've never been hired by a good department because you're new and have been hired by bad ones because you don't do your due diligence...okeedokee. Don't really believe that, but hey! You gave an answer...good enough.
 
You're awfully hostile, triemal. You claim you're not insulting, but it's blatantly obvious you are attacking.
 
STXmedic said:
You're awfully hostile, triemal. You claim you're not insulting, but it's blatantly obvious you are attacking.
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I'm really not trying to be deliberately insulting, but when someone with that type of track record in employment pops up...it does become a fair question that should be answered. My specific responses are guided by my opinion, but it's not intentionally malicious.
 
triemal04 said:
So you've never been hired by a good department because you're new and have been hired by bad ones because you don't do your due diligence...okeedokee. Don't really believe that, but hey! You gave an answer...good enough. :rolleyes:
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I do not claim that any of the places I have worked are even bad, Trimal04. They all certainly had flaws, but for the most part, they weren't bad in any one area, just as they were somewhat mediocre in most areas. All did some things excellently, and I would be more than happy to praise them for tnose things. For instance, AMR New Mexico has (circa 2012) a very good, involved and wise leadership team in Alamogordo and Pafford EMS in Oklahoma is really making some good things happen recently, albeit with doubts as to sustainability of improvements.

You also assume that "bad" is wholly a function of the service. It's not. A department that is medically and operationally sound and fits my criteria (say, from DEmedic's accounts, Suffolk County, Delaware) is a "bad" fit for me, because I am married and my wife isn't going to be happy about moving to Delaware and leaving her family in Texas.
 
triemal04 said:
I'm really not trying to be deliberately insulting, but when someone with that type of track record in employment pops up...it does become a fair question that should be answered. My specific responses are guided by my opinion, but it's not intentionally malicious.
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Yeah, how dare I look for a full-time job that fits Unicorn Criteria! Clearly, the best answer is to volunteer, earn your spurs, never look around and death-grip the first gig that comes around for its merits...
 
@triemal04 -As entertaining as this is... you're criticising someone when they were criticising a system/company.

You decided to use his previous postings to make assumptions about him and question his personal abilities etc...it is a one sided argument therefore...so I'd suggest you give more info about yourself to balance the scales, or wind your neck in (but im not attacking you here lol...)
 
RocketMedic said:
Yeah, how dare I look for a full-time job that fits Unicorn Criteria!
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Here's the thing, and maybe this is better taken to PM. Looking for the best place to work isn't the problem; everyone should seek out the job site that is the best for them if they want to be happy in their career; in ANY career. What's odd and concerning is that you end up complaining about every job you get...all of them. For eff's sake! Go work for whatever it is that you consider a good department! Go make that happen; since it hasn't yet, figure out why it hasn't and make any neccasary changes so that it does. Just take an objective and realistic look at what was wrong if you change your mind.

Anyway...done.
 
You two would have a great 24 hour shift together on same wagon lol...
 
irishboxer384 said:
@triemal04 -As entertaining as this is... you're criticising someone when they were criticising a system/company.

You decided to use his previous postings to make assumptions about him and question his personal abilities etc...it is a one sided argument therefore...so I'd suggest you give more info about yourself to balance the scales, or wind your neck in (but im not attacking you here lol...)
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Sure...what do you want to know?

I'm not sure what you mean by the rest; of course I use his previous postings to make a decision about him; I don't know him personally, so it's all I have to go on. It's all you have to go on to make decisions about me...or anyone else here who doesn't know someone outside this forum. Is that what you were getting at?
 
triemal04 said:
Here's the thing, and maybe this is better taken to PM. Looking for the best place to work isn't the problem; everyone should seek out the job site that is the best for them if they want to be happy in their career; in ANY career. What's odd and concerning is that you end up complaining about every job you get...all of them. For eff's sake! Go work for whatever it is that you consider a good department! Go make that happen; since it hasn't yet, figure out why it hasn't and make any neccasary changes so that it does. Just take an objective and realistic look at what was wrong if you change your mind.

Anyway...done.
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Because systems aren't always as they seem. There's a local system here that's very well respected and I held on a pedestal as a premier system. Once I started working there, I realized that they had a lot of issues they didn't really advertise. Do I still think they're a good system? Sure. I would never make a career out of them, though. The point- a system may initially seem great, until you start working for them and the skeletons come out. If you start finding negatives in a system that makes you not want to make a career out of them, why the hell would you stay there? Some people don't like to settle. Some people have standards and ambition. Others don't.
 
I complain and find flaws because those are the issues that keep a place from.being excellent. If you draw conclusions from that complaining and make judgements of me based on my desire to enhance my environment, then so be it.
 
RocketMedic said:
I complain and find flaws because those are the issues that keep a place from.being excellent. If you draw conclusions from that complaining and make judgements of me based on my desire to enhance my environment, then so be it.
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I work for arguably one of the most progressive and aggressive, after presidio, services in the country. Im even finding flaws and complaints. Im looking for my unicorn too, I guess I just have had a little better luck. But nut being married has helped that too
 
For what it's worth, a Rocketmedic ems system would literally outperform any other service in every metric except time and cost. But patients and employees would love it.
 
STXmedic said:
Because systems aren't always as they seem. There's a local system here that's very well respected and I held on a pedestal as a premier system. Once I started working there, I realized that they had a lot of issues they didn't really advertise. Do I still think they're a good system? Sure. I would never make a career out of them, though. The point- a system may initially seem great, until you start working for them and the skeletons come out. If you start finding negatives in a system that makes you not want to make a career out of them, why the hell would you stay there? Some people don't like to settle. Some people have standards and ambition. Others don't.
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You shouldn't stay; if a place is not where you want to make a career, dear god move on and find something better. There are plenty of less than desirable places to work; maybe rocketmedic has just has the bad luck to only end up there. Maybe the problem is more of an internal one with him. The simple fact is that, when looking for work, or deciding what is right/wrong with something, or why something didn't work out, you need to ask if you yourself may not be part of the problem. You might not be, but the question should be asked.
 
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