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Do you stand by at fires?
and if you do, is there a rehab that you process FF's through?

~S~
 
Well, since we do fire and EMS both, we do our own rehab. Depending on the size of the fire, we'll assign the FF/EMT on the ambulance to check everyone after they've come out and before they go back in. Basically get a set of vitals (pulse, BP, resps, O2 sat) and record it. Other than that, its just basically making sure the guys get some rest and cool off, which is more the officer/BCs responsibility.
 
Originally posted by SafetyPro@Jul 3 2005, 08:17 PM
Well, since we do fire and EMS both, we do our own rehab. Depending on the size of the fire, we'll assign the FF/EMT on the ambulance to check everyone after they've come out and before they go back in. Basically get a set of vitals (pulse, BP, resps, O2 sat) and record it. Other than that, its just basically making sure the guys get some rest and cool off, which is more the officer/BCs responsibility.
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We're the same way here. We maintain a list of baseline vitals for all of our members in each of our ambulances.
 
We had the "Second Alarm Assn.", probably something similar to an auxillary. It was made up of off duty personnel who came in and set up a really well planned rehab. Even had those chairs that you fill with water, and the fans that blow a water mist, tents, cots, etc. It was like a little diner/motel/spa/ER in an old U-haul truck.

:blink:

I bet I could make one out of Whacker 3. :P
 
Chairs you fill with water?
 
Originally posted by Chimpie@Jul 3 2005, 11:22 PM
Chairs you fill with water?
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The mesh chairs w/ the arm pockets you fill w/ water to cool them down.
 
Never seen them before. Got pics? Links? Manufacturer name?
 
Originally posted by Chimpie@Jul 4 2005, 12:19 AM
Never seen them before. Got pics? Links? Manufacturer name?
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I have one... I could always take a pic of myself in it...
:P

I bought it on eBay for 19.99! A steal! Seeing that it costs five bucks to make in china, and sells for ninety bucks! :rolleyes:

Hope this helps:


The Kore Kooler Rehab Chair.

I googled it. Officer Store Dot Com

The Fire Store - Rehab Supplies

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We also had a bunch of these... Pretty awesome!

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Those mist blowers are pretty cool (no pun intended :P ). They used to use them on the band/student section of the stadium for football games when I was in college. Very effective...and that was almost 10 years ago...I can imagine the technology's improved now.
 
We work for private EMS, and we provide an service for the fire departments we serve. Paramedic First Responders (1 Medic in a Tahoe) will respond to the scene. They have baseline vitals of all the FFs. They'll take BPs, provide water, and evalauate FFs as needed. These members also train with the FFs and really get to know them, and train on injuries they will see at fire scenes. This is all at no cost to the city of fire department, all paid for by our private company. It's cool.
 
neat responses... :)

what's the verdict on H2O vs. sports drinks and/or those w/electrolytes ??

~S~
 
Our ambulance responds with the fire department we don't use the rehab as often as we probley should. I know we have given a few O2. I know it seems that when ever I go out one of the more experienced EMTs go and take tags as the guys are going in and the rest of us stay in the rig ready to go if a problem should arise. I have really only been on one scene where they had rehab set us and were using it. And that was when we were searching for a child that fell into a creek. I would have to say all went well that day between our department taking water out to those walking the creek (which were the volunteers while EMS/Fire stayed on scene). Like I said it was well done they had people out constantly cheecking on the groups to see how they were doing, delevering water, and just making sure all was safe.

As for the water to sport drinks and electrolytes. I think someplace I read that if a person is starting to dehydrate it is best to give them sport drinks that have been diluted with water I think it was half in half or less sport drink to water. I may be wrong. I would say that water is best to give a person and make sure that they are drinking lots as most are probley soaking wet with sweat.

My 2 cents B)
 
Although we are a 3'rd indentity.. we stand -by, just in-case ... also bring ice chest full of drinks etc...

Be safe,
Ridryder 911
 
For those who have been at long scenes, is the Red Cross active in your area? Do they support you guys on any of the scenes?
 
Originally posted by Stevo@Jul 4 2005, 12:26 PM
neat responses... :)

what's the verdict on H2O vs. sports drinks and/or those w/electrolytes ??

~S~
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I'm all for water, wet is the best, but cold is better. Lime Gatorade is okay too.

Seems like ten years ago, when I was just getting into actually fighting fire, I turned 18, so I was no longer a go-fer. Someone brought Kool-Aid to a barn fire, it was like 105 degrees +/- outside already. It was great, cold, tasty, quenched my thirst and gave my bgl a boost. But my "interior partner" said, You are sooo gonna regret that. Yup, with in an hour I was in the ambulance curled up in a ball w/ horrible abd pain! :angry:

Heat + Working hard X Sugary Fluids = severe abdominal cramps.

Soda/fruit juices, other than maybe orange juice = bad idea.

Go w/ the Gatorade and Bottled Water!
 
Originally posted by Chimpie@Jul 4 2005, 12:44 PM
For those who have been at long scenes, is the Red Cross active in your area? Do they support you guys on any of the scenes?
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Red Cross will come sometimes, but only for people who lost their home. The Salvation Army brings coffee, cocoa, sandwiches, pizza, cookies, muffins, cases of COLD water, chests of ice, tents & folding chairs, space heaters, blankets, etc.

They are the lifeline up here in the boon docks. They even do it for the forestry when we had forest fires. If it took longer than ten hours, they would bring 20x20 pop up tents and set up cots for people to sleep. They'd even come w/ off duty paramedics and set up a first aid station w/ EKG, etc. Much more than local ambulances could provide.

Red Cross isn't very active anymore, they used to be strong, manpower wise. But people aren't volunteering for anything these days. I was going to instruct a CPR/Advanced First Aid Course for them this summer, but only one person signed up. So what we have in mind is planning a special course, in conjunction w/ local EMS regions for firefighters. Then we could at least get some cash flowing in again. We had to close the main building and move to a smaller space b/c they couldn't afford the rent. Sad. :(
 
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