Patient treatment when goes against your faith, or feelings, or whatever?

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Please be respectful to everyone's faith, feelings, or whatever moves them. No attacks even if you find it ridiculous. I'm sure you have something some of us might find ridiculous.

We hear in the news that some faiths will not allow a man to expose a woman that is not his wife, so can he treat a female patient properly? Basically this is a spin off of another topic that was getting off topic.

I often treat patients that have life styles I disagree with. Heck there are treatments I disagree with. So what do I do? Do I treat the patients? Do I follow protocol and do treatments I disagree with?

I will not answer for now but what about you?
 
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It's wrong to refuse to provide emergency treatment based on personal beliefs. If the patient has time to find other providers, then it isn't an emergency, and hence why I don't see a problem with physicians who refuse to prescribe the morning after pill or perform abortions. Emergency medicine and prehospital care doesn't fit that. Learning to provide medical care doesn't fit that.

So, I have no problem with a provider seeing only one gender provided the provider's job doesn't include emergency care. However, this is not a sutiable "out" during training, so they will still have to examine and treat members of the opposite sex while learning to provide medical care.

One exception: In cases where there are limited number of providers, I feel that there is a ethical imparitive to not discriminate. I also believe that most religions basically provide an "out" for specific professions, such as medicine. Even Orthodox Jews will power up a defibrillator during the sabbath.
 
I have no issue treating anyone with anything for any condition. No restrictions here.
 
Let me add one more point as the topic that I took this from some said they would not want to see someone with a beard that their religion required treating them. So if you were a patient and saw something from a faith you disagreed with would you refuse to let them treat you?
 
Me personally i would treat the patient as i would treat any other pt no matter what there religion is. If you can avoid taking an article of clothing off then leave it on unless it interferes with your care of the pt. Patient care is patient care. Treat them with respect and explain that this what you have to do to treat it. If they refuse treatment then note it in your narrative have the pt sign off on it and just transport. Nothing more you can do. Explain the complications if they refuse treatment. If they still refuse then thats there problem and there is nothing else you can do.
 
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Ehh, totally depends on what we're speaking of here.



I'm not going to take off my boots in a house /place of worship if it's an emergency.



But that's about all I can think of that I'd do against their wishes... everything else is up to them.
 
Please be respectful to everyone's faith, feelings, or whatever moves them. No attacks even if you find it ridiculous. I'm sure you have something some of us might find ridiculous.

We hear in the news that some faiths will not allow a man to expose a woman that is not his wife, so can he treat a female patient properly? Basically this is a spin off of another topic that was getting off topic.

I often treat patients that have life styles I disagree with. Heck there are treatments I disagree with. So what do I do? Do I treat the patients? Do I follow protocol and do treatments I disagree with?

I will not answer for now but what about you?

Whether I agree or disagree with my pt's/loved ones' "faith choices/life choices/life style choices/what have you" became moot and irrelavent the moment I chose to become a patient advocate and to treat those in need.

I don't get paid to have an opinion. I don't have the authority to have an opinion. I have only one job requirement. And that is to advocate for those in need, to benefit others.

My opinions belong in the exact same place as my ego and my cape: home.
 
I can not think of a reason I would refuse to treat a patient based on anything but safety. If a patient wants to refuse treatment because of religious reasons, that is their right. If a parent wants to refuse life saving treatment for a minor child then we might have some issues (obvious stuff here, like refusing oxygen to a cyanotic kid, or dextrose to one with a CBG of "low").

Thinking about it, the only scenario I could come up with that would be an issue is if I was treating someone that is a member of one of the religions that covers their face. That is both a safety and assessment thing. However, being female I think I'm allowed to see other women without their covering on, so it wouldn't be an issue for me personally.

If you have religious convictions so stringent they won't allow you to touch a member of the opposite sex, or be around someone with a beard emergency medicine is not for you. We have NO control over who we see, and you have to be able to treat everyone equally.
 
This is so wild. Many attacks were made on another topic because the guys religion requires a beard. Yet here so many have posted no problem treating. HMMM.

Well for myself I to do the job to the best of my ability regardless of my personal opinion. I work to show respect to others beliefs just as I would hope they would be respectful of mine. As mentioned there are some treatments I do not agree with so guess what, I do not apply for any job that would make those a large part of my responsibility.
 
People were attacking the patient because his religion required a beard or people were attacking the provider?
 
IIRC, the provider's religion required that the provider have a beard.
 
That is slightly different, mostly because of the N95 mask issue. I don't rive a rats tail WHY someone has a beard. I do care that a mask can seal over it.
 
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