I was working at my ems job one when I started feeling really I'll, cool pale diaphoretic and tachy, a little dizzy too. Three supervisors where there as it was close to lunch time. One of them proceeded to get a monitor and they put me on it. I was tachy with nsr but bp was 154/112. I told them that I had to go get a chest xray and would stop and take my bp med. They took no info or got a refusal. I went to get my bp med but became I'll again and threw up, I went back to work and someone else took my bp andvit was 170/120. She said that she would call a unit to bring me to er. Are the three supervisors in trouble for not recommending I go to hospital and not getting refusal and if so what could the penalty be? Thanks for your help!
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Are you an EMT or a Paramedic?
If you hold either one of these certs and the fact that you are on medication for BP, you should have known what your BP, signs and symptoms meant. You also stated what you were going to do by getting a CXR and taking your meds. They may have been doing what they did as a courtesy to avoid you getting a bill but probably should have made sure you had a safe ride to the clinic or ED if they did not want to declare you to be a patient and were going by what you said you were going to do. However, treating friends, co-workers and oneself is what usually gets some in the most trouble.
If you hold either one of these certs and the fact that you are on medication for BP, you should have known what your BP, signs and symptoms meant. You also stated what you were going to do by getting a CXR and taking your meds. They may have been doing what they did as a courtesy to avoid you getting a bill but probably should have made sure you had a safe ride to the clinic or ED if they did not want to declare you to be a patient and were going by what you said you were going to do. However, treating friends, co-workers and oneself is what usually gets some in the most trouble.
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akflightmedic
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First post and he is sniffing for penalties and negligence....how about some personal responsibility??? Be accountable for your actions, you are an adult.
It is people like you who piss me off and cause our legal system to be overburdened with BS when simple personal responsibility is all you need.
I smell trouble and a troll...
It is people like you who piss me off and cause our legal system to be overburdened with BS when simple personal responsibility is all you need.
I smell trouble and a troll...
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You people sure love jumping to conclusions don't you 
I believe the question is, does your personal negligence outweigh the supposed negligence of those that unofficially tended to you?
I believe the question is, does your personal negligence outweigh the supposed negligence of those that unofficially tended to you?
Are you making plans to sue them?
Were you harmed in any way? Do you feel harmed or wronged?
What is you tell management?
How big of an issue did you make about this at work or at the hospital?
How many people did you tell that you felt wronged by their treatment of you?
They were attentive to your condition and confirmed what you seemed to already know. If you are an EMT or Paramedic, which you haven't stated yet, you should be taking some responsibilty here. You are on a public anonymous forum asking others:
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JPINFV
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If a friend asks you to take their BP or pulse or something, do you get them to sign a RMA?
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I don't see where the criteria for negligence was met
1. duty to act
2. breach of duty
3. actual damages
4. proximate cause
To prove negligence, the plaintiff must establish and prove the above mentioned criteria, do you have any of them?
Sounds to me as if someone is in for a short career in EMS. The way you ask about potential penalties offers no monetary gains to yourself. If you do not know the primary principles of negligence how can you possibly protect yourself from people like you? And the thought of a fellow emergency care provider, a brother in the field seeking punitive actions for a scenario like the one you describe makes me sick
1. duty to act
2. breach of duty
3. actual damages
4. proximate cause
To prove negligence, the plaintiff must establish and prove the above mentioned criteria, do you have any of them?
Sounds to me as if someone is in for a short career in EMS. The way you ask about potential penalties offers no monetary gains to yourself. If you do not know the primary principles of negligence how can you possibly protect yourself from people like you? And the thought of a fellow emergency care provider, a brother in the field seeking punitive actions for a scenario like the one you describe makes me sick
Ridryder911
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No negligence was made or proven, however; if one does attempt to pursue upon unfounded justification one can be assured that they will be labeled and blackballed to never work in EMS again or known that there is a blood sucking non-appreciative person that should receive a bill next time.
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wooh, nailed that one, am happy that Rid agreed with something i posted
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Not only that, but there doesn't seem to be a plaintiff at all. The "patient" in this case isn't trying to prosecute, and seems to be trying to make sure nothing happens to the defendants. And I doubt that their superiors are going to prosecute their own employees for something like this.
Short answer, nothing's going to happen unless you try and make it happen, Jordan. And if you do, find yourself a new career and don't ever fall sick or injure yourself.
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