Medic spins out

q209 said:
the EMT saves the medic...
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I'm not necessarily going to assent to this, but I'm concerned that we're not hearing at all about what the EMT was doing while the medic was flailing around being useless. Is the environment at this service so toxic/so "rank"-conscious that the EMT couldn't call for backup on their own or insist that they get things moving?

I can't imagine standing around on-scene and watching someone neglect two seriously ill patients for half an hour, and I have all the command presence of a wastebasket.

As far as what should happen, this medic needs to come off the road immediately and be remediated. If it doesn't take, pulling her license might be the best option, though I imagine that's a PITA.
 
I prefer to say "situational awareness".
 
q209 said:
The medics who taught my courses repeatedly reminded us that medics can develop tunnel vision, and it was up to the EMT to provide the posterior impulse correction at whatever level necessary. Their quote: the medic saves the patient, the EMT saves the medic...
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Right, because us darn medics completely forget the wider picture all the time....:rolleyes:
 
Meh

The job sounds like a cluster &%$# purely through lack of leadership.
 
q209 said:
The medics who taught my courses repeatedly reminded us that medics can develop tunnel vision, and it was up to the EMT to provide the posterior impulse correction at whatever level necessary. Their quote: the medic saves the patient, the EMT saves the medic...
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To the same extent that a medic saves an EMT sometimes, a doctor saves a nurse and a nurse saves a doctor, etc. etc.. It's all one big team!
 
medichopeful said:
To the same extent that a medic saves an EMT sometimes, a doctor saves a nurse and a nurse saves a doctor, etc. etc.. It's all one big team!
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Ugh, cant help myself, must bite.....

Heres a scoop for you all, forget your certifications forget whats written on your shirt. Your a health care professional, you work as a team. A part of working as a team is to be able to communicate to the people your working with issues, problems and situations that need attention. You do not have to be an EMT, a Paramedic, or a raccon to do this. You do not specifically have to have a Darth Vader there to "Save" an Obi-Wan Kenobi.

All of this someone saves somene else is nothing more than BS

This concept, this retarded throwaway line of "someone saving someone else" is nothing more than a retarded idea perpetuated by fools who accept it as dogma because it helps to inflate their sense of self importance.
 
OzAmbo said:
Ugh, cant help myself, must bite.....

Heres a scoop for you all, forget your certifications forget whats written on your shirt. Your a health care professional, you work as a team. A part of working as a team is to be able to communicate to the people your working with issues, problems and situations that need attention. You do not have to be an EMT, a Paramedic, or a raccon to do this. You do not specifically have to have a Darth Vader there to "Save" an Obi-Wan Kenobi.

All of this someone saves somene else is nothing more than BS

This concept, this retarded throwaway line of "someone saving someone else" is nothing more than a retarded idea perpetuated by fools who accept it as dogma because it helps to inflate their sense of self importance.
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I think you stated it better than me! :)
 
medichopeful said:
I think you stated it better than me! :)
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Yeah man, i knew what you were getting at. This topic gets hashed out so much across every EMS forum in existance - it really is just BS, my eyes want to bleed everytime i see it
 
OzAmbo said:
Yeah man, i knew what you were getting at. This topic gets hashed out so much across every EMS forum in existance - it really is just BS, my eyes want to bleed everytime i see it
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Agreed!
 
OzAmbo said:
Ugh, cant help myself, must bite.....

Heres a scoop for you all, forget your certifications forget whats written on your shirt. Your a health care professional, you work as a team. A part of working as a team is to be able to communicate to the people your working with issues, problems and situations that need attention. You do not have to be an EMT, a Paramedic, or a raccon to do this. You do not specifically have to have a Darth Vader there to "Save" an Obi-Wan Kenobi.

All of this someone saves somene else is nothing more than BS

This concept, this retarded throwaway line of "someone saving someone else" is nothing more than a retarded idea perpetuated by fools who accept it as dogma because it helps to inflate their sense of self importance.
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This is one of the better statements I have read on here in a long time, well done.

There is nothing that sets me off faster than the whole "so and so saves so and so" line of BS. There are many in EMS that seem to forget that healthcare is all about helping the patient and not constantly comparing one another to our peers. Everyone plays a role. Either embrace it or learn to play a new one.
 
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