Let's Take vitals!

[CAOX3]

I have honestly never read more blatant excuses for not doing one's job. Your partner must also be as bad as you or you would probably not be employed. .

OK, thats professional and intelligent insult my partner also. If you cant have a cilvil conversation with a person that has a differing viewpoint then yours with, you shouldnt be the self proclaimed mayor of EMT city.

I couldn't have said that better myself.

Hopefully your sloppiness is revealed soon enough. Hopefully it is not at the expense of the life of a patient..

You can assure yourself of that.

So tell me since you are being so blatantly honest, do you turn in a blank report form or do you make up numbers? Does your company bill for what you don't do? Falsifiation of records? Fraud?..

If you read the post you would no the answer to that.

Fraud would be an ALS work up for the guy who thought he caught mental retardation, but I bet your a pro at turning all your BLS calls in to ALS complaints to justify the twelve medics you have going to every medical.

You have just belittled the role of EMT-Bs..

I belittle EMTs? What do you call what you do?

I hope the new EMTs are reading this and realize that if they get a partner like you, they need to immediately request a new one. They do not need to learn anything from you because you have little to offer and you have demonstrated that not only on this thread but on countless others. You are probably the best example of some of the worst examples of people working in EMS who has no interest in patient care and does not even understand a rather simple job description that the EMT-B has. Taking responsibility and doing what is required of you seems to mean little to you..

Your breaking my heart. I have plenty of interest in patient care, when a patient requires it.

I hope this thread will come to an end because all we are doing is feeding this so called EMT-B and like in many other threads he just wants to argue that patients are BS and waste his time. That also sets you apart from taxi drivers because they do not believe their passengers are a waste of time. .

So now your an expert on taxi drivers also?

New EMT-Bs: Please understand that not all EMT-Bs out there will be like CAO but if you come across one that blatantly doesn't care or doesn't do his/her job, take notes and get another partner. The notes will be for when he tries to pin all the blame on you later for what he didn't do.

You my friend remind me of someone who would leave their partner holding the bag, to protect his coveted position. The difference bwetween me and you is I work in EMS I am not defined by it. I am not perfect far from it. Ask my wife

Twelve years and no problems yet, actually a few awards and accommodations.

You seem to be a expert on me and my actions. I will keep you in mind to pen my biography.

The problem is you haven't met to many people in EMS that don't hang on your every word especially an EMT and that bothers you.

If I need mentoring I get that from the many providers that work in my service. I don't need your approval.

Now back to the discussion, you still havent explained to me why a complete set of vital signs is needed for someone with an ingrown hair.

 

[medic417]

Now back to the discussion, you still havent explained to me why a complete set of vital signs is needed for someone with an ingrown hair.

Actually several of us have but you have chosen to ignore.

 

[VentMedic]

CAOX3,
Your remarks are too pathetic to even comment on.

My advice for others is don't feed this troll anymore. He won't stop even though he has no point to make.

For the newcomers, there are serveral other good posts here for you to get information from. Don't fall into the bad habits CAOx3 has given examples of and advance your education. Please do not remain an EMT-B for 12 years if you want a career in EMS. However, when you are an EMT-B, don't become complacent, disgruntled, lazy and need to constantly seek excuses to not do patient care. Do the job and do it well or don't do it at all.

 

[CAOX3]

Actually several of us have but you have chosen to ignore.

No what you told me was just do my job, what else do I have to do as an EMT and I am lazy, a detriment to my field, and pretty much a just some derelict of EMS. Good thing I have thick skin.

What you fail to explain is why everyone needs a complete set of vitals signs without twisting the examples I gave to benefit your argument.

 

[CAOX3]

CAOX3,
Your remarks are too pathetic to even comment on.

My advice for others is don't feed this troll anymore. He won't stop even though he has no point to make.

For the newcomers, there are serveral other good posts here for you to get information from. Don't fall into the bad habits CAOx3 has given examples of and advance your education. Please do not remain an EMT-B for 12 years if you want a career in EMS. However, when you are an EMT-B, don't become complacent, disgruntled, lazy and need to constantly seek excuses to not do patient care. Do the job and do it well or don't do it at all.

Does that mean your not going to address my points

 

[CAOX3]

This will be my last post here at EMTLIFE the name calling and derogatory statements allowed here, have turned what used to be a very informative place into a site for a few un policed members to promote their personal agendas, without threat of discipline. It is a place I no longer choose to visit.

I have met some very nice people here to those I wish good luck.

I hope in the future this site returns to the educational tool it used to be.

Take care,

CAOX3

 

[exodus]

I didn't see one post name calling. And if there is one, report it and boss man will take care of it...

Why is everyone getting pissed off? Because you are refusing to get vitals on every patient. Who cares if you don't think they're needed? It takes 2 minutes to get a baseline. Just do it, you don't have the medical knowledge to rule anything out.

 

[TransportJockey]

Use the auto BP, it takes a pulse too!!!!

I kid, I kid.

One thing I learned is that respirations are sometimes hard to count when the patient is breathing so shallowly you have to check a pulse to make sure they haven't died, I find a stethescope is useful for counting the resps for these patients. Before anyone jumps in for the kill, the only patients I have had like that were hospice patients with a DNR at an old job. On the off chance you run into one of those... there's a tip!

I've had those patients before. On a four hour transfer I'm just thankful that they were still breathing when we got them home

 

[rescue99]

Actually COAX3,

Vent is correct... Medicare/Medicaid/insurance fraud would be falsely documenting care or treatment not rendered. We're responsible for not only what we do...but for the things we do no do as well. When we falsify what we are supposed to do, we cheat not just the patient out of good care but, compromise the integrity of the profession.

 

[akflightmedic]

This will be my last post here at EMTLIFE the name calling and derogatory statements allowed here, have turned what used to be a very informative place into a site for a few un policed members to promote their personal agendas, without threat of discipline. It is a place I no longer choose to visit.

I have met some very nice people here to those I wish good luck.

I hope in the future this site returns to the educational tool it used to be.

Take care,

CAOX3

Clap Clap Clap....I always love the dramatic exits.

 

[medic417]

Clap Clap Clap....I always love the dramatic exits.

And this years award for best exit goes to...................................

 

[medic417]

Sadly CAO has bragged on other sites about getting people riled here and even bragged about getting some banned. Now he is trying to act like a victim when called out for a dangerous practice in hopes Vent, myself and others will get banned. But I am sure the mods will see through his game.

 

[VentMedic]

Sadly CAO has bragged on other sites about getting people riled here and even bragged about getting some banned. Now he is trying to act like a victim when called out for a dangerous practice in hopes Vent, myself and others will get banned. But I am sure the mods will see through his game.

It is also sad that he knew what he was doing and has done this before on a couple of other threads, which I did get warnings for from the mods for telling him to knock off promoting bad and dangerous practice. I believe he knew what he was doing or stating he was doing was wrong but just wanted to create a mess. That is not a good example for the many young people we have here who are just starting out.

However, I will still stick by my message to not stay at EMT-B if you want a career in EMS or anything. You must continue your education and that begins the minute your EMT class ends.

 

[Shishkabob]

You must continue your education and that begins the minute your EMT class ends.

Or 5 months later like me

 

[WuLabsWuTecH]

Or 5 months later like me

Hey, at least you have a job now right?

I've had those patients before. On a four hour transfer I'm just thankful that they were still breathing when we got them home

And to get us back on track, I love the stethoscope idea from sasha for counting respirs.

Also, anyone ever use a doppler steth? We carry one, but it seems like a messy proposition to me!