Ice/cold packs for fever

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Space.bar.is.broken.

While.a.temp.of.105.is.nothing.awesome,it's.also.not.a.huge.deal.in.and.of.itself...it's.how.the.kid.is.reacting.to.that.fever.that.really.matters...What's.his.mental.status?..How's.his.activity.level.etc.
Should have just used the clap emoji because thats how i read that
 

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ER Doc, you should hand that resource out to nurses and medics too!
Most healthcare workers don't understand that fevers are not dangerous, and that fever and hyperthermia are two entirely different things.
 

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ER Doc, you should hand that resource out to nurses and medics too!
Most healthcare workers don't understand that fevers are not dangerous, and that fever and hyperthermia are two entirely different things.
It is just so ingrained in our society that it is hard to change, much like antibiotics for ear infections. I never give my kids tylenol or motrin until they are feeling uncomfortable. If we could, at a societal level, educate parents about fevers we could cut a huge number of PCP and ER visits. I like to give the print out because it comes from some mecca of pediatric medicine and not just some crazy er doctor from bumblefuck, Michigan.
 

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It is just so ingrained in our society that it is hard to change, much like antibiotics for ear infections. I never give my kids tylenol or motrin until they are feeling uncomfortable. If we could, at a societal level, educate parents about fevers we could cut a huge number of PCP and ER visits. I like to give the print out because it comes from some mecca of pediatric medicine and not just some crazy er doctor from bumblefuck, Michigan.
Do i see a Parenting 101 on the horizon? I'd support it :D!
 

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Nope. I've managed to keep my kids alive this long, it's not hard.
 

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@ERDoc, the fever-phobia makes me wonder -- are we seeing incidences of overdose as a result of over-aggressive use (misuse) of antipyretics?
 

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I know I've had several cases where we had to discuss with the parents the proper dosing of meds. Nothing toxic, just a little too much. I haven't searched the literature but it wouldn't surprise me.
 

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@NomadicMedic, that's fascinating stuff (just from the description alone)! I'll give it a listen!
I think the first time I heard about an APAP overdose, it was Vicodin related (APAP/Hydrocodone combo) and somebody took their usual prescribed Vicodin PLUS a bit too much additional APAP.
 

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@NomadicMedic, that's fascinating stuff (just from the description alone)! I'll give it a listen!
I think the first time I heard about an APAP overdose, it was Vicodin related (APAP/Hydrocodone combo) and somebody took their usual prescribed Vicodin PLUS a bit too much additional APAP.
That's why they don't make Vicodin anymore, you can only get Norco.
 

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That's why they don't make Vicodin anymore, you can only get Norco.
Certainly makes sense! (I see the FDA set the APAP component of opioid/APAP combos to 325mg.)
 
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