I was bored... so I sutured a cardboard box

I thought it was amusing. I've done suturing randomly on stuff before. but its similar to knitting. might as well knit a scarf or sew somthing, otherwise it's kinda pointless...
 
Mountain Res-Q said:
Maybe becasue this was posted under EMS HUMOR... so I made a funny not believeing that everyone is as touchy or hostile as you tend to be in your thresds. :rolleyes: On the other hand, if you come to an EMS forum with absolutely no knowledge of what EMS is about and you post something like that (funny as it may be) you should expect a little harmless jabbing... Do you think it was posted by someone looking for some praise of by someone that was also laughing at himself?
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What you said was past good natured ribbing and down right mocking and mean.

He's a newcomer. I don't think he posted this expecting to get made fun. He doesn't know the scope of an EMT or paramedic. Can you blame him for not knowing? Look at the TV shows on TV. Paramedics are heros! They do EVERYTHING! Did you know the entire scope of a paramedic and EMT when you started? Probably not. I know only the scope of a paramedic in my state and that's AFTER taking paramedic class and doing some research on the subject.
 
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The whole time I was suturing I was thinking how great it was that I was getting a jump start on my fellow classmates. I'm still not sure exactly what it entails to be an EMT or Paramedic in my area but I know it's what I want to do for a living. I supposed I join this community to better understand "the life", at least as much as possible until I started for myself. Cheers :)
 
I heard somewhere that medics in Wyoming are trained to suture and it's in their scope, simply because of the ridiculous transport times and the high possibility of entrapment in the pt's house due to inclement weather conditions.

If this isn't true, I'd like to know so that I don't misinform anyone.
 
Note To readers

Please if you live in Washington and you know this guy, please please I beg you please don't let him touch me if I ever vome to visit. On the other hand I do have so patients that would love to chat with him. COOCOO
 
I love the blanket statements that were wrong by some that in EMS we never suture. Welcome to rural, frontier, and wilderness EMS, you may be expected to be able to suture as a Paramedic and possibly as a basic.

There is no one size fits all in EMS, speak for your service not for EMS or don't speak at all.
 
Sewing? is that not whats its called when we do it not non flesh like things?
 
cprguys said:
Please if you live in Washington and you know this guy, please please I beg you please don't let him touch me if I ever vome to visit. On the other hand I do have so patients that would love to chat with him. COOCOO
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The kid is excited! That doesn't make him crazy, nor does it mean he will be a bad EMT/Paramedic. Though I'm hard pressed to believe anyone with an attitude such as yours is so wonderful.
 
medic417 said:
I love the blanket statements that were wrong by some that in EMS we never suture. Welcome to rural, frontier, and wilderness EMS, you may be expected to be able to suture as a Paramedic and possibly as a basic.

There is no one size fits all in EMS, speak for your service not for EMS or don't speak at all.
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The blanket statements keep me warm at night. ^_^
 
Scout said:
Sewing? is that not whats its called when we do it not non flesh like things?
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negative doing a suture is much different than sewing. Also some EMS services will let you suture as has been mentioned and in the army all medics get to suture. you have to be careful you don't pull the skin to taut otherwise you cause the scar tissue to raise, but to loose and you get nice jagged scars so your pt can say he was in a knife fight! lol it's better to try on oranges as you stated or mangoes. but you can get "skin" online from tattoo supply shops that works pretty well. Nurses can and do suture all the time maybe not floor nurses but in the ED and numerous other departments they do. I always say if your going to do something have fun don't criticize someone for messing around...
 
Not bad!! Try it on an orange, its more realistic in simulating human tissue.
 
Afflixion said:
negative doing a suture is much different than sewing. Also some EMS services will let you suture as has been mentioned and in the army all medics get to suture. you have to be careful you don't pull the skin to taut otherwise you cause the scar tissue to raise, but to loose and you get nice jagged scars so your pt can say he was in a knife fight! lol it's better to try on oranges as you stated or mangoes. but you can get "skin" online from tattoo supply shops that works pretty well. Nurses can and do suture all the time maybe not floor nurses but in the ED and numerous other departments they do. I always say if your going to do something have fun don't criticize someone for messing around...
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I dunno about the other branches but we practiced on pig's feet. [Navy]
 
yeah we used pig's not just their feet but pigs we had a live tissue lab that was fun practiced venous cut downs and other fun stuff like that.
 
Rump roast suture

Heh, what is it with Army medics and pork? j/k

Had a combat medic (USAF) teach me the basics of suturing on some cheap cuts of pork. He stressed the form of suturing above all- speed and confidence comes later, and all that practice will be part of reflex later.

I never got any pig feet, maybe it's time to get a refresher on this and run down to the meat market!

Dave
 
Just wondering, but if most EMS personell don't suture... what could a pre EMT-b who is about to start the classes do to get a jump start on learning the field? I'm completely clueless about what im getting myself into, however am extremly excited that i am doing something with my life,and something that i will love.
 
DawnParr: Read. I know it sounds boring, and much less fun than doing something practical, but knowledge is key. If you have your textbook already, read that. If not, brush up on your high-school physics (pressures, gases, and fluids) and biology (mammalian physiology - cardiovascular system (heart, lungs, blood vessels), and a quick refresher of the cellular stuff, because ultimately our goal is to keep those little guys alive). And if you can go to the library and get your hands on a basic anatomy textbook, its helpful to have a basic grasp on anatomy. You don't need to know about each indiviudal muscle and its innervations, but if you know where everything is, you have a better idea of what organs/systems are affected by different injuries.

Finally, on a more physical note, hit the gym a bit, and make sure you're in decent fitness. There's a lot of lifting in your newly chosen career, and you're going to want to strengthen your core muscles to prevent injury down the road.


Good luck!!
 
pig skin makes complete sense to practice on, but i'm holding an orange and don't see it. are we talking about the skin or the actually orange? i mean, i'm sure it works well to practice on b/c so many people have said to use it, could someone just explain to me which part?
 
DawnParr said:
Just wondering, but if most EMS personell don't suture... what could a pre EMT-b who is about to start the classes do to get a jump start on learning the field? I'm completely clueless about what im getting myself into, however am extremly excited that i am doing something with my life,and something that i will love.
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http://wps.prenhall.com/chet_limmer_emergencycare_10/19/5005/1281452.cw/index.html

there is tons of info on this site along with quizzes, vocab and diagrams... it should be a good start to build a lil bit of knowledge before you start class
 
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