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Afternoon. Just here to skulk around see how the old EMT world is over the pond. Heading over to the big US sometime this year to do a so called "EMT boot camp" short online course thingy and hopefully do your NREMT certification. Heres a fun fact - contray to popular belief socialised medicine has been dead a long time here :sad:
 
i strongly recommend switching to a college at least for the certification. the hands on experience helps alot and at the end of the course we did ride alongs and actually experienced the job. alot more fun too that sitting behind a computer. you also get to tour the local hospitals that way and get a good feel for the city you'll be working in
 
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i strongly recommend switching to a college at least for the certification. the hands on experience helps alot and at the end of the course we did ride alongs and actually experienced the job. alot more fun too that sitting behind a computer. you also get to tour the local hospitals that way and get a good feel for the city you'll be working in

Hello. I take your points! However I am already a "qualified" EMT in the UK. I say qualified, but technically speaking it is not possible to be a qualified EMT as such over here! So I do have several years experience frontline EMS. Also your immigration rules are pretty dam tight, we can only visit for 12 weeks at a time unfortunately. Dont think I could squeeze a college course into that time frame.
 
NCTI offers a 2 month EMT course....they are spread all over the US.
 
Hello. I take your points! However I am already a "qualified" EMT in the UK. I say qualified, but technically speaking it is not possible to be a qualified EMT as such over here! So I do have several years experience frontline EMS. Also your immigration rules are pretty dam tight, we can only visit for 12 weeks at a time unfortunately. Dont think I could squeeze a college course into that time frame.

If you think your experience is good in EMS, do the quickest course you can find to get the cert, though the NREMT has minimum standards, so your going to get what you need even if you take a 2 month course. FYI, I took a 2 month basic course at my community college and I didn't feel like it was rushed or that I missed out on anything. Some places run even shorter classes (say 1 month or less) for firefighters.
 
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. the hands on experience helps alot and at the end of the course we did ride alongs and actually experienced the job.

The online still has hands on. They also require ride outs and hospital time. Get the facts straight before you defame.
 
What's it like over there? Details, man, details!

The Army's really soured me on socialized medicine, but we've got our own hydras to slay here.
 
What's it like over there? Details, man, details!

You mean EMS or the health service in general? Neither can really be called "socialised" as such. Healthcare is always free at point of care and insurance is mandatory (i.e. deducted from your salary alongside tax) but the providers of healthcare actually range from NHS trusts, private companies, universities, the self employed, and even charities.
 
i strongly recommend switching to a college at least for the certification. the hands on experience helps alot and at the end of the course we did ride alongs and actually experienced the job. alot more fun too that sitting behind a computer. you also get to tour the local hospitals that way and get a good feel for the city you'll be working in

I don't think there is an EMT-B course anywhere in the nation where there is no hands on component. Part of the core curriculum is the learning of psychomotor skills, so classroom days must be part of it. Many of these "boot-camps" are also going to include time on and ambulance and/or hospital. Many states require clinical time prior to finishing the class, so it isn't like the program can choose to not include that component.

The hybrid method of education is here to stay, and it is used at all levels of education. You may dislike it, but at least put forth reasonable reasons on why you think it is a bad idea. Many people may actually find that it is the method that works best for their style of learning.
 
I don't think there is an EMT-B course anywhere in the nation where there is no hands on component. Part of the core curriculum is the learning of psychomotor skills, so classroom days must be part of it. Many of these "boot-camps" are also going to include time on and ambulance and/or hospital. Many states require clinical time prior to finishing the class, so it isn't like the program can choose to not include that component.

The hybrid method of education is here to stay, and it is used at all levels of education. You may dislike it, but at least put forth reasonable reasons on why you think it is a bad idea. Many people may actually find that it is the method that works best for their style of learning.

Agreed
 
Here's the reason I don't like computer based courses...

It offers no way for a student to learn from another person's questions, nor does it answer any questions they may have. They are presented the material and expected to learn it as the gospel. Every course I've ever taken, I've learned almost as much from the discussion between the students and the instructor as I did from the instructor alone.
 
Here's the reason I don't like computer based courses...

It offers no way for a student to learn from another person's questions, nor does it answer any questions they may have. They are presented the material and expected to learn it as the gospel. Every course I've ever taken, I've learned almost as much from the discussion between the students and the instructor as I did from the instructor alone.

This is certainly worth considering, as the saying goes "if you have a question, don't be afraid to ask it because someone else probably has the same question as you."

However much of formalized higher education occurs in large lectures where classroom discussion doesn't take place anyway. I am all about small class size where discussion takes place, but this is not always possible. Furthermore, in introductory levels the discussion is not really going to be discussion, it's going to be clarification of key points. One does not need to be in a small class room to have their points clarified, especially with the availability of vetted sources on the internet. When my EMT instructor taught something I didn't understand, I sought out my fellow students for an alternative explanation, but it's important to remember that they too may not have a grasp of the concept at hand and therefore will give you an inaccurate explanation.
 
This is certainly worth considering, as the saying goes "if you have a question, don't be afraid to ask it because someone else probably has the same question as you."

However much of formalized higher education occurs in large lectures where classroom discussion doesn't take place anyway. I am all about small class size where discussion takes place, but this is not always possible. Furthermore, in introductory levels the discussion is not really going to be discussion, it's going to be clarification of key points. One does not need to be in a small class room to have their points clarified, especially with the availability of vetted sources on the internet. When my EMT instructor taught something I didn't understand, I sought out my fellow students for an alternative explanation, but it's important to remember that they too may not have a grasp of the concept at hand and therefore will give you an inaccurate explanation.
Kinda hard to do when sitting at a computer all by yourself.
 
Kinda hard to do when sitting at a computer all by yourself.

I understand that many online programs have a chat function, and even if not there are a myriad of ways to set one up. I've studied for tests with a class where we are all in different places and make an "active study guide" using GoogleDocs. One just has to be creative, but there's a lot of options.
 
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