It actually does harm to your profession, and perhaps my own. Its a form of degree creep, and its going to turn midlevel providers into another Physical Therapy fiasco.
Where are you getting all of your misinformation from?
Do you work with PTs, DNPs or any type of medical professional holding an advanced degree?
I now find your posts very offensive as if blowing off a serious issue about women's health for your own insecure reasoning about working on an ambulance wasn't bad enough. Now you must bash other professions who have made themselves a solid presence in the healthcare industry through advancement of education.
Do you even understand how specialized and high tech some of these professions have become that now require higher levels of education?
Obviously not!
You are speaking with the education and experience of an EMT-B. 110 hours of training. But, of course, that and a log on to "student doctor", where probably over 60% have education levels no higher than you, believe you know more about everything. Students doctors would not be wasting hours posts on a mindless anonymous forum. Real student doctors belong to organizations on secure sites where they know who they are talking to. Even there they spend very little time chatting about the threats of nurses.
that DNP is a thinly veiled attempt to backdoor the process of becoming a physician. I stand behind the idea that only medical doctors should be called "doctor" in the clinical setting, even as I work to become a PA myself.
Again, more crap coming from some forum. There have been RNs at the doctorate level for several decades. Many of these higher educated RNs helped to establish the first degree programs for Paramedics.
As the link I posted stated the DNP has been around since 1979.
There are also professions of every type that have doctorate degrees.
NPs are very vital and their need will increase as no more med students choose to match into primary care. I believe we should keep them a masters level, with a notable exception for teaching, which usually requires a doctorate. But to practice, a masters should be all that is required. There is a vocal push to make the DNP a first professional degree required to practice.
It is not your profession to say what they should or should not do. Why do you want to keep their educational level down?
I have my Masters and am going for a doctorate degree. Are you saying I am wrong for getting more education?
And I know that NPs in my community afraid of degree creep up to the doctorate level, and view this as a bad thing.
Broad blanket statement. Maybe you only have 2 NPs in your community who have the same insecurities you do about education.
also from speaking to real physicians in the area.
How many and what specialty? How old?
How many have actually taken time to read about DNPs or know one? Or, were they just listening to your own version and politely nodding?
Vent, you would not be too happy if someone with half your education was demanding your scope of practice.
People with a lot less education can do the same "skills" and do have the same "scope of practice" as I do as a Paramedic. It is my education that opens up other opportunities for research, education and various clinical situations I wish to pursue.
You have a lot to learn about education and other professionals. You also have a long way to go before you have enough experience to call another degree or profession fluff, creepy, or a fiasco.
Enough with bashing professions you know too little about to be writing such inflammatory remarks.
I would say you have even more insecurities about the DNP as it might relate to the PA.
What would you mother say if she knew you have such a low opinion of nurses and higher education? Maybe you think that nurses are not smart enough to be "educated" at a higher level based on your own mother's struggles with school. Believe it or not, there are nurses who have what it takes to raise the bar for a profession.
Back to the article and OP:
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It does not accomplish its purpose and instead perpetuates the use of the term "ambulance driver". If anyone wants to learn about their health, they can speak to their residency trained board certified physician or his/her designated PA/NP under a MDs supervision.
It said Ambulance worker. The term Ambulance is well recognized throughout the world. All the "American" titles aren't.
I think you stopped reading the article after you saw the title. Because of your own insecurites about who and what you are, it has prevented you from learning some interesting medical facts.
If we were to go with your logic, there would be no Awareness organizations for AIDS, Breast Cancer, Prostate Cancer, Heart Disease (AHA), or whatever.
Additionally, the signs and symptoms of AMI in women and diabetics are understood, and education with prevention can be accomplished in the primary care setting.
If you had read the originial articles, you would know the research and the autopsies on the dead women say otherwise. Cardiac disease in women has been and still is overlooked.
Get over your insecurities about working on an ambulance and read articles about medicine if you are in this profession for more than just a cute uniform and title to go with all that L/S stuff.
You might want to rethink some of your statements about education and other healthcare professionals. If you still feel others should not raise the bar on their education and advance professionalism, you might want to rethink your own future. Medicine is always advancing. As a PA you will have to work with people with various certifications/licensures and edcuation. Some will have more than you and some less. If you can not handle the thought of someone, "like a nurse", having more education than you, the medical profession probably is NOT for you.
