Not trying to start anything
But if I could just respectfully point out.
Like I said before, until I work with a decent basic I wont think to highly of them. Thats not saying every one of them is bad. Just the ones that I have worked with in my experience.
Because the roles and responsibilities of different providers vary by location, and the value an agency places on providers directly affects the type of providers it attracts, it is possible you will never work with "a good basic"
because a good one wouldn't accept a position in such a demeaning environment.
The only thing I was saying in this thread was about the comment jpinfv made reguarding letting people ride in front while on calls and listening to music.
All previous comments on this aside, I think your view on this is rather limited. I tried to point out earlier that having riders in the cab or box should not affect care or safety. It is also in the best interest of the patient, and a compasionate service to the family in the spirit of a competent and respected healthcare provider.
Not quite sure how it is in his neck of the woods but that doesnt fly when im in the back.
I think I would be remiss for not asking if your ego is not interfering with providing compassionate care. EMS and medicine is practiced many ways in many areas. You do not have insight to some absolute truth to make such profound statements on right and wrong.
Thats why i said thats why im a medic and not a basic. So I can make critical decisions and be the "boss.".
Seems like a fair statement, but could I point out that the word "boss" is from Dutch origin and refered to a skilled "master" of a specific trade or profession? It is not a synonym for tyrant. a master in the medical or healthcare profession is expected to enable, support and guide junior collegues for their professional betterment, as that ultimately leads to better care for the patient. Many in healthcare consider their position a privilidged position in the service of the patient, not a position of lordly right over them. When wielding your authority, keep in mind: a patient will not remember or even recognize competent care. They will remember and judge how you treat them and their loved ones. patients, just like you or I would never sue their friend, but would gladly sue their enemy.
If basics are considered "bosses" then why does the medic run the call/scene if its anything worst than a runny nose???
I think you may be misinterpreting the difference between boss and highest educated medical provider. Unless you possess the authority to hire or fire your partners, you are not "the boss." You are the senior medical provider. There are many examples of fire departments where the officers are not paramedics and are in charge over them as officers. The role of the senior medical person is to make the best decisions for the patient. If you have been in EMS for 6 years, I have taught it longer than you have been involved, the difference in a paramedics education and that of an EMT when it comes to EMS operations is negligible in the US. The difference is in medical education.
i have yet to be on a scene where a basic was running it instead of a medic and I am going on my sixth year of doing this..???
I believe you. But it seems you have not had 6 years worth of experience, but the same experience for six years. It seems like you can only speak to your limited location. I also don't think you have enough variety of experience or depth of medical education to decide who is a competent care provider or not based on your statements here.
I hope you now see the forest from the trees or I have wasted my efforts.
