I love how everyone argues over the dumbest crap on this forum, there is hardly ever a cival thread on here. I've had cardiac pt's that insist on walking, I usually make them refuse moving equipment with a signature. It is up to them. It should also be documented in the narrative what took place. You then have 2 items that back your arse up in court. I understand what these medics did, they just did a horrible job with documentation which, if your a Medic, EMT, or FR, you best know all about. Falsification of what was done was not appropriate either....
and oh my god, a PAID PROFESSIONAL did this, not a volunteer, what next?
How does throwing this little quip in here benefit the argument at hand rather than beat an already deader than dead horse?? Seems to satisfy your own personal agenda, to me...
And for the people on here who immidiately hung the crew out to dry by going by what the article said.... Shame on you! Not backing your own? Not having at least the professional courtesy to say " you know what? I wasn there, I shouldnt judge" I bet some of you are the same people that drop your partners in the grease just to save your own *** dont you?
Threads like this make me sick!
And what is "good ol boy" about not passing judgement?
This "good ol boy" attitude makes ME sick.
Im not standing by them, nor am I defending them.
I have made no statement in their defense. I have said that I did not approve of them lying.
The main point of my argument, was people need to quit being martyrs. Quit acting like a group of people that have never screwed up. We all have. This thread is yet another exaple of many here on this website. People get on here and bash one another all the time.
The name of this website is EMTLIFE. We are a small profession in our infancy. Now is the time to help one another out. Not throw one another to the wolves.
If the article is accurate, and is in fact the sequence of events that occured without deletion... Than yes! Off with their heads for lying, and falsifying documentation.
But come on. We have more viable discussions on here than spanking someone for screwing up when that already been done. Theyve lost their jobs. Theyve been punished. Dont kick them anymore.
I am completely in agreeance with severa people in this thread...
You are in the wrong line of work. And Ill tell you this much, I wouldnt work with you as a partner. That just tells me you are judgemental, and arrogant.
There are quite a few posts in this thread that have completely immasculated the medics strictly on what the article said.
In fact if you ever need the help of an ambulace, I don't know lets say for terribel abominal pain... My protocols specificallty state that abdominal pain is the only thing that I cannot use narcotic pain management for. I can only give toradol if I am absolutely certain that it is kidney stones, and I can absolutely rule out ranl cohlic.
But normall if I were to pick up another medic for a situation like this, I would call my on duty supervisor, and ask for permission to medicate you anyway since you are a medic, and you know what your true situation is.
Or what about when you are supposed to relive me at the end of my shift, and you call and say you are going to be late because your kid is sick and you need to take them to the doc. Should I stay over a little late for you? Sure I would. Because thats taking care of your own. When the fact of the matter is you are late! period. The job does not stop just because your child is sick. You should make other arrangements to get your child to the docotr like a grandparent, a neighbor, a sibling, the other parent. I should probably report that to the supervisor because when it boils down to it.... you violated policy because you are late! But i don't.... why? because we take care of each other.