Alright, yes of course I'll know more then the average joe cuz of my degree but I won't say I'm a better medic just cuz o that. And if I offended you by my post I apologize. I didn't mean anything by it.
Can an EMT B become an ER tech?
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Alright, yes of course I'll know more then the average joe cuz of my degree but I won't say I'm a better medic just cuz o that. And if I offended you by my post I apologize. I didn't mean anything by it.
An Associates of Science degree is now the minimun for licensure in several Allied Health professions as well an nursing. It shouldn't be unreasonable to obtain that since there are many colleges that have already offered the degree since the mid 1970s.
I would first propose that all Paramedic instructors hold at least an Associates degree. The teachers must be prepared to teach.
Other professions require at least one degree higher or a Bachelors degree at minimun with a Masters preferred for a teaching position. Not only should you know the material you are teaching, you should be able to present it and recognize feedback from the students as to whether you are effective in the classroom. Many Paramedic instructors know their stuff but don't know how to teach or to read a class.
This is a decent A.S. program at Miami-Dade CC.
http://www.mdc.edu/medical/AHT/EMS/ems_curriculum.asp
I would prefer a Pharmacology class included.
Here's another example from St. Petersburg Community College
http://www.spcollege.edu/program/EMS-AS
To see how it compares to another Allied Health program such as Respiratory Therapy and to see what classes a Paramedic would still need to become an RRT.
http://www.spcollege.edu/program/RESC-AS
Nursing:
http://www.spcollege.edu/program/NURSE-AS
Compare any of the A.S. healthcare programs at a community college.
http://www.mdc.edu/medical/AHT/NMT/default.asp
If you want to see examples of Bachelors programs for EMS and others, here's Loma Linda University.
http://www.llu.edu/llu/sahp/prog.html
Once you start comparing what others EXPECT one to have to enter their profession and what EMS has gotten by with, you will begin to see what has been missing.
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Yes, you will be a better medic for it. I do not think you understand yet but I think that you will once you start reading the principals of pathophysiology in the front of the paramedic text.
Yeah I borrowed a buddies critical care book and it talk about pathophysiology. Are you in medic. School rite now? If so what school are you going thru? I'll be moving down to Irvine and the only medic progam I saw was the one in Riverside NCTI. p
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I am a little more careful about revealing certain things online for my own protection and future employment, but I will tell you my program is based in Ventura, California.
I have heard good things about NCTI, but I would recommend taking A&P in college instead of their A&P for paramedics class. Its better to get to see and cut through a pleural membrane than to read about one and see animated pictures.
I have heard good things about NCTI, but I would recommend taking A&P in college instead of their A&P for paramedics class. Its better to get to see and cut through a pleural membrane than to read about one and see animated pictures.
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There's a paramedic program at Saddleback Community College and Riverside Community College as well.
http://www.saddleback.edu/hs/paramedic/
http://www.rcc.edu/academicPrograms/ems/
Although I've heard mixed reviews about RCCs program because they take the entire academy idea over the top (I personally have issues with the idea of uniforms for students, but that's for a different thread).
Oh nice, yeah I saw the saddleback program. And the whole uniform deal I totally agree.
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The fire department jobs have become so competitive that four year degrees are being recommended. They are required if you are going to advance past entry level to any kind of officer position.
Think about it, you have 30 applicants for 2 openings.... out of that you end up with 4 or 5 who pass the written, physical and orals. Having that piece of paper puts you ahead on points.
No, Vent, they are not insisting on a degree in paramedicine but they are seeing a lot more applicants showing up with degrees in biology, public administration, healthcare management, fire science and the like.
Think about it, you have 30 applicants for 2 openings.... out of that you end up with 4 or 5 who pass the written, physical and orals. Having that piece of paper puts you ahead on points.
No, Vent, they are not insisting on a degree in paramedicine but they are seeing a lot more applicants showing up with degrees in biology, public administration, healthcare management, fire science and the like.
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answer kind of!!!
i would think not although i may not be right
i would think not although i may not be right
I do think about this. We have 200 applicants for 1 Flight Paramedic position and over 6000 for 20 FF/Paramedic positions.
For my area, there are other things that must be considered such as labor and employment issues as well the number of languages you speak. A person holding FF and Paramedic certs who is bilingual may be viewed as more valuable than someone who speaks only English but has a degree in Business Adminstration or even Paramedicine.
For Flight, I am always amazed at how little prep work with actual education some put into preparing for the job. Many think it will all be OJT which some of it is if one has the proper educational foundation to work with. However, if the most you have done is keep your Paramedic and ACLS certs updated, then you may not be ready to keep up with the requirements of a specialty team.
Yeah this is so true. My instructor told me that when they were recruitin they came down to 2 medic applicants n one had military experience n one spoke 3 Lang. So the one that got the job was the bilingual medic cuz of that.