Am I the only person disgusted by this??

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By now I'm all have heard about the tragic death of Jett Travolta. While checking my e-mail earlier to see if anyone still cared about me, I came across this story on Yahoo.

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/rescue-worker-how-we-tried-to-save-jett-travolta/17149

I am absolutely appalled that this p.o.s. EMT sees his 15 minutes in the spotlight more important than maintaining the privacy of a family in grief. He even had the veracity to include a "job well done" by John Travolta. I guess we can add tact to the list of things we should include in an EMT's education. Apparently it's not included down on the island. The new and improved stupidity of humans...........It never ceases to amaze me!

Thoughts????
 
It is a foreign country, with a different culture. I'm pretty sure that the EMS supervisor isn't used to having TV cameras shoved in his face, and I'm going to bet that there isn't a local PIO named, either.
 
It's sad but really not that shocking or even surprising. Just lacking professionalism. Poor kid.
 
I wouldn't necessarily be appauled, Flight, but I would like to give the EMT a few words of wisdom.

It's better to keep quiet and look like an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Somethings do not need to be voiced; for instance, being quoted by the media patting yourself on the back after someone's child has been pronounced dead. Unwise.
 
Why is EMS basically an unknown service in the USA? Because we never get to talk about our calls. We never get to draw any positive attention. We never get to show the blood and guts. You always see cops and fire fighters for lack of better term bragging about what they just did. The public sees and hears them but they never hear from USA EMS people about our work. They only see the bad headlines or the call 911 in emergency statements. If we can not talk about whats done to actual patients no wonder the public disrespects us by calling us ambulance drivers. Honestly I wish we could tell them about some of the things we are required to do and even include real footage. The public would soon realize that we do a whole lot more than provide free rides to the hospital.

So I refuse to judge this EMT for taking a moment to bragg and be a hero for attempting to save a life.
 
Why is EMS basically an unknown service in the USA? Because we never get to talk about our calls. We never get to draw any positive attention. We never get to show the blood and guts. You always see cops and fire fighters for lack of better term bragging about what they just did. The public sees and hears them but they never hear from USA EMS people about our work. They only see the bad headlines or the call 911 in emergency statements. If we can not talk about whats done to actual patients no wonder the public disrespects us by calling us ambulance drivers. Honestly I wish we could tell them about some of the things we are required to do and even include real footage. The public would soon realize that we do a whole lot more than provide free rides to the hospital.

So I refuse to judge this EMT for taking a moment to bragg and be a hero for attempting to save a life.

I am sure alot of healthcare professionals, including MDs, feel that way. However there is that little word "professional". Most went into the healthcare profession to provide healthcare and not grandstand every chance they get. They get their point across by promotional ads from their national organizations. They don't invade their patients' right to privacy. You see patients at their most vulnerable times and to violate that trust is unspeakable.

Every time I drove past the ENQUIRER building in South Florida I used to think about all the stories I could have sold them while working as both an RRT and Paramedic. I had access to all to good information. I knew many on the who's who list that had HIV, face lifts, MVC injuries and suicidal tendencies. But, I did not go into either of those professions to become a celebrity myself.

I would guess many on this forum do not know what an RRT, RN, OT, SLP, PT or any of the many licensed medical professionals really do in healthcare. These professions are not glamorous enough to have TV shows like Third Watch (or the many other shows) about them. These professionals did not get their jobs to appear on the 10 O'Clock news. Their reward is to have their patients progress and success in making a good recovery. Watching a stoke patient eat and walk for the first time can be pretty amazing also as can decannulating a quadriplegic from trach and ventilator dependency to give them more freedom. Getting the patient to the hospital is just one step, although very essential, in what the future holds for that patient.

There are also thousands of LEOs and FFs that don't mug for the cameras. They just happen to be left at scene with impressive equipment and in public view which makes for pretty pictures. The ambulance usually leaves the scene quickly because their concern should be for the patient and not whether the media got their best side in the photograph as they were working on a cool trauma with blood and guts.

And no, the public doesn't always see bad headlines about EMS. Watch the newswire on some of the EMS sites and you will see many, many good news articles. However, people tend to read the articles and news stories that interest them. If they do read an article about a tragic accident, their thoughts and prayers will probably go to those that are suffering and have lost their loved ones...not to the ones that just want their picture in the paper to show "what we do or what a hero I am".
 
Why is EMS basically an unknown service in the USA? Because we never get to talk about our calls. We never get to draw any positive attention.

I see where you're coming from but I'd rather do an excellent job and let others, like the family members, praise me.

I don't mind EMS workers talking about their work with the media, but I don't believe that giving the dirty details about a celebrity's death to a fluffy gossip rag whose only goal is to feed a vicarious public is the best way to do so. It's tactless and does nothing for the public image of EMS. Do you think the readers of this article give a rat's *** about EMS - before or after reading it? Of course not, they just want the juicy details, the "inside dope" as the magazine states.
 
Vent you are funny. Made me even laugh at myself with your comments about my comments.

You are right it is about the patient not my fame. But to compete for the funds that are unfairly distributed we really do need, even though I do not want to, resort to creating a Hero image like fire and police have. Then the public would be outraged at how we are treated. Also they would be outraged at agencys that try and lower education standards. I think we could actually have the public help force this career into a true Medical Profession.
 
. I think we could actually have the public help force this career into a true Medical Profession.

First, EMS must identify what it is as a "medical profession". This has already been stated over and over by the legislators that make the policies especially where reimbursement is concerned. And, over and over special interest groups and individual states fought on the basis of their own agendas.

We have over 50 different EMS certifications in the U.S. with education varying from 110 to 200 hours for the EMT-B and 500 hours to 2 years for the Paramedic. No two ambulance companies may be the same even within the same county that respond to calls with the same FDs. There should be menu or a play bill like in the theater to identify who is doing what at that moment on that ambulance. How does the public know what to expect if even those in EMS can not figure out our own mess?

All the professions I mentioned have established national stanards for education and credentialing as well as national professional (not unions) organizations representing them in legislative issues and presenting them to the public as needed in promotionals ads.
 
I agree EMS is the most rag tag item I have ever seen. With fire fighting to keep standards low to expedite medics to run on fire trucks which makes no sense. Then as you say there are tons of levels. We need to do away with all the in between levels. Become an EMT to assist on scene. Become a degreed Paramedic to Provide Professional Medical Care.

We need to get fire unions out of the picture and develope a professional organization for the advancement of EMS as a profession. We need that organization to demand all be educated for the worst environment rather than dumb done for the easiest.
 
It shouldn't matter whether you work for a FD, private or county ambulance. If the national standard for education is an Associates degree in Paramedicine for the paramedic, there should not be any argument. RNs and RRTs don't fight about their entry level being an Associates whether they work in a nursing home, progressive teaching hospital, county or private. If anything, they argue for increased education and EXPECT it. Yes, there may be some viewed as the Prima Donnas of the flock such as those that work in NICU or CVICU, but everyone has equal opportunity to advance to become one of "them"...a little hospital humor.
 
I agree EMS is the most rag tag item I have ever seen. With fire fighting to keep standards low to expedite medics to run on fire trucks which makes no sense. Then as you say there are tons of levels. We need to do away with all the in between levels. Become an EMT to assist on scene. Become a degreed Paramedic to Provide Professional Medical Care.

We need to get fire unions out of the picture and develope a professional organization for the advancement of EMS as a profession. We need that organization to demand all be educated for the worst environment rather than dumb done for the easiest.

Let's not get into an "us verses them" scenario. That's one of the things holding us back. We do have an organization. It's called the NAEMT. They sponsor PHTLS, AMLS, and PEPP. The organization can't and won't fix our problem. What will fix our problem is for each and every EMS agency across this great land of ours to address and resolve our Chronic Rectocerebral Inversion Syndrome and get on the same page. Until then, nothing will change.
 
Chronic Rectocerebral Inversion Syndrome and get on the same page. Until then, nothing will change.

How true. But to do that will require certain unions to let EMS get on same page.
 
This EMT should have stopped and thought about what he was doing for a second. Not very professional at all. I question though how his ambulance service let him interview with his uniform on. He is most definitely not representing the service, or at least I hope he isn't.

On the other hand this seems more like a publicity ploy by the Travolta team. They were getting bad rap about how they didn't give him his medications or didn't offer proper treatment (not saying that was true). So why not have an EMT talk about how compassionate and loving the family was during his death and put it on all the big news channels? Clears the family of accusations of wrong doing and re-focuses people on the tragedy of his death.
 
Let's not get into an "us verses them" scenario. That's one of the things holding us back. We do have an organization. It's called the NAEMT. They sponsor PHTLS, AMLS, and PEPP. The organization can't and won't fix our problem. What will fix our problem is for each and every EMS agency across this great land of ours to address and resolve our Chronic Rectocerebral Inversion Syndrome and get on the same page. Until then, nothing will change.

I'm going to start a new thread before we hijack this one further.
 
How true. But to do that will require certain unions to let EMS get on same page.

Unions? Or people? Organizations, in and of themselves, are inanimate objects and can do nothing. It's the people that do things. They're the ones who get things done.

As a former high school football coach once told me, "It ain't the dawg in the fight, it's the fight in the dawg". How bad do you want it?
 
"Marcus Garvey"? Please tell me that's either a mistake or he's screwing with the reporters. Either way, this doesn't seem like a lack of training on dealing with the press. Someone saw a chance for his 15 seconds of fame.

I almost feel bad for Jett, with this idiot responsible for him, Scilon parents (though they seemed to have been a little more reasonable about their son), ?autism, and that name.
 
As a former PIO, the EMT supervisor's response to the media was pretty good. I'd almost wonder if he wasn't already experienced with giving statements in a past life. Good job on his part getting the "atta boy" in there from Travolta.

In the past few years, many folks in EMS are not used to hearing media statements from one of our peers. And when they do, there seems to always be a few who are taken back. EMS clearly needs to become more aggressive in working with the media.

I've seen many times where EMS squandered opportunities to promote themselves on the evening news. In the hands of a proficient PIO, an EMS provider can get a tremendous amount of PR mileage from the boob tube watchers!
 
As a former PIO, the EMT supervisor's response to the media was pretty good. I'd almost wonder if he wasn't already experienced with giving statements in a past life. Good job on his part getting the "atta boy" in there from Travolta.

In the past few years, many folks in EMS are not used to hearing media statements from one of our peers. And when they do, there seems to always be a few who are taken back. EMS clearly needs to become more aggressive in working with the media.

I've seen many times where EMS squandered opportunities to promote themselves on the evening news. In the hands of a proficient PIO, an EMS provider can get a tremendous amount of PR mileage from the boob tube watchers!


So please advise what we can say and not break privacy laws.
 
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